Space Travel n size of traveller

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The discussion revolves around the potential characteristics of alien species in relation to their size and how this might affect their ability to engage in space exploration. Participants explore various hypothetical scenarios regarding the size of intelligent extraterrestrial life forms and their implications for technology and exploration, with references to science fiction and biological principles.

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  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants categorize alien species based on size: larger, same size, or smaller than humans, and question which would facilitate faster or easier space exploration.
  • One participant suggests that intelligent life forms on Earth-like planets would likely not be much larger than humans due to energy requirements for brain function.
  • Another viewpoint posits that smaller aliens could construct smaller spacecraft and require less energy, potentially making them more likely to initiate contact with humans.
  • Conversely, a participant argues that larger aliens might find it more efficient to travel to Earth due to their strength.
  • Discussion includes speculative ideas about alien forms, such as microscopic life on neutron stars, referencing science fiction works that explore these concepts.
  • Participants note practical limits to size based on physics and physiology, including the square/cube law and structural integrity challenges for larger organisms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views regarding the implications of size for alien species, with no clear consensus on which size would be most advantageous for space exploration. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple competing ideas.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference biological and physical principles, such as energy requirements for intelligence and the square/cube law, but these concepts are not universally accepted or fully resolved within the discussion.

darkar
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What do u think?

There is 3 category.

1. Species which size bigger than us.
2. Species which have the same size as us.
3. Species which is smaller than us.

Assuming all of the kinds have the same intelligence as us, living in different world, wish same Earth like environment. Which one will be able to make space exploration faster? easier? Why?
 
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Perhaps i should change the question a bit.

In most science fiction, the alien we encounter are always thought to be almost the same size or body like human.

But if there really exist aliens, and one day we encounter them, use your imagination, what do you think they will look like??
 
If they are on a planet such as Earth, gravity will be similar. They will not therefore be much larger than any Earth animal. Intelligent Brains need big energy sources, so slow moving large animals aren't really possible. So, human sized or smaller is my guess - it depends how efficiently nature can build an intelligent brain though.

What will they look like? - impossible to guess.
 
if they're smaller they can make smaller ships, and rely on less energy intake, i think? also they will find it easier to leave their atmosphere, so the smaller the alien, the more likely that it will meet us first, but ultimatly, an alien could be just about whatever size that works for it and it's environment...
 
If they were big, they would find it more efficient to jump to Earth since they are so strong! Just adding to the bs...
 
I rather like the 1 micron long aliens that lived on the surface of a Neutron star in Baxter's SF book "Flux". Although there were a few details I didnt' like, on the overall I thought it was a very interesting idea. Also relevant would be Sturgeon's "The Mircocosmic God".
 
i think i heard that there were aliens on the moon, alien bacteria off of a camera or something
 
hexhunter said:
an alien could be just about whatever size that works for it and it's environment...
There are practical limits to size and/or mass based upon both physics and physiology. The square/cube law prevents a 'solid' creature from getting too large and still being mobile in a non-supportive environment (ie: a blue whale, even if it had legs, wouldn't do well on land) There comes a point where the structural integrity of the body can't support the mass. Something gaseous, like an intelligent derigible, or sea-dwelling, could get a lot bigger. Likewise, if one sticks to any known neurological basis there is a lower limit to how small a brain can be and still have the capacity for intelligence.

pervect said:
I rather like the 1 micron long aliens that lived on the surface of a Neutron star in Baxter's SF book "Flux".
In that case, definitely check out 'Dragon's Egg' and the sequel 'Starquake' by Robert L. Forward. They're excellent accounts of life on a neutron star.
 

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