Kinetic Energy speed and a car

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The discussion revolves around a problem in kinetic energy involving two cars with different masses and speeds. The original poster presents a scenario where one car has twice the mass of another but only half the kinetic energy, and both cars increase their speed to achieve equal kinetic energy.

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  • The original poster attempts to set up equations based on the given conditions but questions the correctness of their approach. Another participant suggests a clearer setup of the conditions and equations related to mass and kinetic energy. There is a discussion about the relationship between the speeds of the two cars.

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Some participants have provided guidance on setting up the problem correctly, and there seems to be a productive exchange of ideas. However, the original poster expresses confusion about the setup, indicating that the discussion is ongoing without a clear resolution.

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There is a mention of the original speeds of the cars being sought, but the discussion also highlights potential misunderstandings regarding the mass and kinetic energy relationships. The original poster's initial equations may not align with the established conditions, leading to further questioning.

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One car has twice the mass of a second car, but only half as much kinetic energy. When both cars increase their speed by 8.5 m/s, they then have the same kinetic energy. What were the original speeds of the two cars?

first i set it up like this:
.5 * m * v1^2 = .5 * (.5 * 2m * v2^2)

then i get:
v1 = v2

then
.5 * m * (v1 + 8.5)^2 = .5 * 2m * (v2 + 8.5)^2
.5 * (v1 + 8.5)^2 = (v2 + 8.5)^2

but its not right...
 
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Set up your conditions properly!
1) "One car has twice the mass of a second car" [tex]m_{1}=2m_{2}[/tex]
2) "but only half as much kinetic energy" [tex]K_{1}=\frac{K_{2}}{2}[/tex]
3)"When both cars increase their speed by 8.5 m/s, they then have the same kinetic energy":
[tex]\frac{m_{1}}{2}(v_{1}+8.5)^{2}=\frac{m_{2}}{2}(v_{2}+8.5)^{2}, K_{1}=\frac{m_{1}}{2}v_{1}^{2},K_{2}=\frac{m_{2}}{2}v_{2}^{2}[/tex]

To help you along, we have:
[tex]K_{1}=\frac{2m_{2}}{2}v_{1}^{2}=\frac{m_{2}}{4}v_{2}^{2}=\frac{K_{2}}{2}[/tex]

Thus, we have: [tex]{v}_{1}=\frac{v_{2}}{2}[/tex]
 
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thank you, i got it now
 
Howcome both masses are over 2?
 

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