Solving Gravitational Field: What Did I Do Wrong?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational field due to two masses and identifying errors in the original poster's approach. The subject area is gravitational fields in physics.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the gravitational field using the formula for gravitational force and considers the contributions from two masses. Some participants question the vector nature of the gravitational field and the necessity of vector addition. Others explore the horizontal and vertical components of the gravitational field and their interactions.

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Participants are actively engaging in identifying errors and clarifying concepts related to vector addition in gravitational fields. Some guidance has been offered regarding the cancellation of vertical components and the need to correctly account for angles in the calculations.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the direction of the gravitational field vectors and the correct application of trigonometric functions in the context of the problem. The original poster's calculations are being scrutinized for accuracy.

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the question is http://home.earthlink.net/~urban-xrisis/phy.jpg

[tex]g=\frac{GM}{x^2}[/tex]
[tex]x=\sqrt{r^2+a^2}[/tex]
[tex]g=\frac{GM}{(\sqrt{r^2+a^2})^2}[/tex]
[tex]g=\frac{GM}{r^2+a^2}[/tex]

since there are 2 masses...
[tex]g=2 \frac{GM}{r^2+a^2}[/tex]

my book's answer is:
[tex]g=\frac{2MGr}{(r^2+a^2)^{3/2}}[/tex]

what did I do wrong?
 
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UrbanXrisis said:
[tex]g=\frac{GM}{r^2+a^2}[/tex]
OK, this is the field due to one of the masses. Note that it's a vector. What is its direction?

since there are 2 masses...
[tex]g=2 \frac{GM}{r^2+a^2}[/tex]
Since the field contributions are vectors, they must be added as such. (You can double it only if the vectors were in the same direction.) Hint: The vertical components will cancel.
 
horizontally:
[tex]g=\frac{GM}{r^2}+\frac{GM}{r^2}[/tex]
vertically:
[tex]g=\frac{GM}{a^2}-\frac{GM}{a^2}=0[/tex]

so then g would be: [tex]g=2\frac{GM}{r^2}[/tex]

not quite sure what to do
 
That's WRONG.
Vertically:
[tex]\frac{GM\sin{\alpha}}{a^2 + r^2} - \frac{GM\sin{\alpha}}{a^2 + r^2} = 0[/tex]
Horrizontally:
[tex]\frac{GM\cos{\alpha}}{a^2 + r^2} + \frac{GM\cos{\alpha}}{a^2 + r^2} = \frac{2GM\cos{\alpha}}{a^2 + r^2}[/tex]
Find [itex]\cos{\alpha}[/itex]. Can you handle it from here?
Viet Dao,
 
[tex]\cos{\alpha}=\frac{r}{a^2+r^2}[/tex]

[tex]g=\frac{2GM\frac{r}{a^2+r^2}}{a^2 + r^2}[/tex]

?
 
That's not correct. Recheck your [itex]cos{\alpha}[/itex].
Viet Dao,
 

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