Compton Scattering: Calculating Wavelength from Energy

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The discussion revolves around Compton scattering, specifically focusing on calculating the wavelength of an incident photon given a maximum energy transfer of 45 keV to an electron. Participants are exploring the relationship between energy and wavelength in the context of this scattering phenomenon.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to apply the Compton wavelength shift equation but note missing information, such as the scattering angle. There are questions about the relationship between maximum energy transfer and wavelength change, as well as which angle corresponds to this change.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved in Compton scattering, with participants discussing the implications of mass in collisions and the nature of energy transfer. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions for maximum energy transfer, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraint of not having the scattering angle provided, which is critical for applying the relevant equations accurately. There is also a discussion about the assumptions regarding mass in the analogy used to explain the scattering process.

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If the maxmimum energy imparted to an electron in Compton scattering is 45 keV what is the wavelength of the incident photon?

So a compton scattering happens and the energy is 45 keV and I need to find the wavelength of the photon incident to this electron. I think I need to use

Lambda = h/mc (1-Cos), but I am not given an angle.
 
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Jacob87411 said:
If the maxmimum energy imparted to an electron in Compton scattering is 45 keV what is the wavelength of the incident photon?

So a compton scattering happens and the energy is 45 keV and I need to find the wavelength of the photon incident to this electron. I think I need to use

Lambda = h/mc (1-Cos), but I am not given an angle.

Maximum energy corresponds to (minimum/maximum, you decide) wavelength change? Which angle gives the (minimum/maximum) wavelength change?

Your equation is missing something. It is not quite correct in two places. For one, the angle for the cos is missing. What else?
 
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Imagine you're playing billiards. You shoot the cue ball (photon) against the eight-ball (electron), with a certain amount of energy. What direction does the cue ball go after the collision, when it transfers the maximum amount of energy to the eight-ball?
 
The cue ball will go in reverse fro mthe way it came?
 
Jacob87411 said:
The cue ball will go in reverse fro mthe way it came?

Yes, although in the case of a cue ball that has no backspin there is no rebound because the masses of the balls are the same. But if you had a cue ball of lesser mass, it would bounce back. And if you had a cue ball of greater mass, it would keep going forward in a stratight line when the maximum energy is transferred.
 
So there is the collision and there is no rebound, but the 8 ball (electron) does go forward and now has the energy from the cue ball (photon)
 
correct! they have the same masses, so the cue ball transfers all of its energy to the eightball making it move forward and the cue ball come to a halt.
 
Bleah, I forgot about the mass considerations... with equal masses and if topspin doesn't come into play, the cue ball simply comes to a dead stop in a head-on collision with a stationary eight-ball.

I should have specified something like a ping-pong ball hitting the eight-ball. After all, the photon is massless.
 
Jacob87411 said:
So there is the collision and there is no rebound, but the 8 ball (electron) does go forward and now has the energy from the cue ball (photon)

There will be a rebound in the Compton effect problem, and the angle that will give the electron greatest energy is when the rebound photon is straight back.
 

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