Calculating Ratios of Moments: Spatial Extent of Distribution

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The discussion centers on the interpretation and calculation of ratios of moments of probability density distributions, specifically focusing on the spatial extent of these distributions. Participants explore concepts related to moments, such as variance and kurtosis, and how they can be applied to compare distributions using unnormalized moment values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about quantifying the spatial extent of a distribution using the ratios of moments, specifically /.
  • Another participant explains that the first moment represents the expectation or center of mass, while the second central moment (variance) measures the spread of the distribution.
  • A third participant introduces the concept of kurtosis as another measure related to the distribution's shape.
  • One participant notes their limitation in knowledge but mentions that they only have unnormalized values for the second and fourth moments, which they wish to compare.
  • Another participant suggests that one measure of kurtosis can utilize unnormalized moments, potentially addressing the original inquiry.
  • A separate post introduces an unrelated question about functionally complete gates, indicating a shift in topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions and roles of various moments in describing distributions, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific application of unnormalized moments for quantifying spatial extent.

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Participants express limitations in their knowledge and the discussion includes references to specific mathematical definitions and measures, which may depend on context and assumptions not fully articulated.

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Readers interested in statistical distributions, probability theory, and the application of moments in data analysis may find this discussion relevant.

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I've been told that there are useful interpretations of the ratios of moments of probability density distributions, such as <x^4>/<x^2>. I only have un-normalised values of the second and higher moments of the distribution of interest. Is there any way of quantifying the spatial extent of the distribution?

Thanks for any help.
 
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I have limited knowledge of this, but since no one else is answering, I will offer what I have. Incase you don't already know, the first moment is the expectation, which can be interpreted as a sort of center of mass. The second central (about the mean/expectation) moment is the variance, which is analogous to the moment of inertia in physics. The variance is the square of the standard deviation, and is a measure of how "spread out" the distribution is.
The only other one i know of is the skew factor, which is the third central moment, divided by the second central moment (the variance) to the power of 3/2. (here only the denominator is raised to the power, not the third central moment). This is a measure of how symmetrical the distribuition is. Sorry that I can't help more.
 
Thanks for the help.

Unfortunately I only know unnormalised second and fourth moments of the distributions (which is why I need to divide the two!).

I have two similar distributions which I would like to compare on the basis of the unnormalised second and fourth moments.
 
Well, one of the measures of kurtosis in that Mathworld link does use the unnormalized 4th and 2nd moments, so that should do the job.
 
anyone can explain to me what is functionally complete gates ?
 

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