Solve Electron Velocity to Find Initial Energy State

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The discussion revolves around calculating the initial energy state of an electron given its velocity, the work function of a metal, and the final energy level. The context is rooted in quantum mechanics and the Bohr model of the atom.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the electron's velocity to its kinetic energy and subsequently to its energy states using various formulas. Some participants question the validity and representation of the final formula, seeking clarification on its components and derivation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing feedback on the formulas presented. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between kinetic energy, wavelength, and energy levels, but no consensus has been reached regarding the correctness of the approaches or formulas.

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There is mention of a specific formula not found in textbooks, which relates to the Bohr model, and participants are discussing the implications of the work function and known constants in their calculations.

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My instructor was telling what would be on the upcoming test and he said something about:Given the velocity of an electron, the work function of a certain metal, and final energy level. We should be able to find the intial energy state. Sound pretty easy... to easy but here is what i was thinking...
Given the velocity of the electron, I can found out the kinetic energy of the electron 1/2MV^2=K.E.
With the K.E. I can then use f=((work funct)+(K.E.))/(H) to find the Freq. () With that I can then find λ=(C)/(F). to find λ the wavelength.
Then I finally can find the initial energy state by using:
N(initial)=Sq Root(((k(e)^2)/2(Aof zero)hc)-1/λ+n(final)^2))

Does that sound about right? Sorry about all the parenthesis
 
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anyone?? :confused:
 
Yes,me,it looks okay.What does the last fomula represent...?Could u write it using LaTex...?

Daniel.
 
Ok ill try.Its the Blamer formula. This equation he gave us. It's not in the book it has to do with the bohr model. This is the way he gave it to us
1/λ=(K[tex]e^2[/tex]/2[tex]a_{0}[/tex]hc)(1/[tex]n_{f}[/tex][tex]^2[/tex] -1/[tex]n_{i}[/tex][tex]^2[/tex])

Where K=coloumb's constant
e=charge of electron
[tex]a_{0}[/tex]= lowest orbit radia (what you get when [tex]r_{n}[/tex]=1 bohr atom radi of orbit)
H=Planck's constant
c=speed of light
All those are known Rydberg constant
[tex]n_{f}[/tex]=final energy level
[tex]n_{i}[/tex]=initial energy level (this is what we are suppose to find)
 
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N(initial)=Sq Root(((k(e)^2)/2(Aof zero)hc)-1/λ+n(final)^2))


i ended up with this

[tex]n_{i}=all sqroot(ke^2/2a_{0}[/tex]hc - [tex]\frac{\1}{\lambda} + n_{f}^2[/tex])

There is supposed to be a 1 over the lambda but couldn't figure it out
 
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Hope you understand
 
usfz28:

Click on any equation to see the LaTeX code you need.

In the above case, it is:

[tex]N_i=\sqrt{\frac{ke^2}{2 a_0 hc} - \frac{1}{\lambda} + n_f^2}[/tex]
 

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