Question about zero element in vector spaces

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of zero elements in vector spaces, particularly in the context of a set involving trigonometric functions and the implications of defining addition as multiplication of vectors. Participants explore whether the uniqueness of the zero vector is violated in this scenario.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if the set can be considered a vector space if cos(0) is not the unique zero vector, as cos(2*pi) also equals 1.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the underlying field and the definition of multiplication between field elements and vector elements.
  • A different participant asserts that as long as the axioms of a vector space are satisfied, the set can still be classified as a vector space, suggesting that the set of vectors may be a partition defined by an equivalence relation.
  • One participant states that in a vector space of functions, the zero vector is the zero function, defined as f(x)=0 for all x.
  • A later reply indicates that the initial confusion has been resolved, expressing gratitude for the assistance received.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the uniqueness of the zero vector in the context of the defined operations, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications for the vector space classification.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of operations and the underlying field, which are not fully clarified in the discussion.

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Suppose I have a set involving trigonometric functions, with addition defined as multiplication of two vectors. If this is a vector space, the zero vector has to be unique. If cos (0) works as the zero vector, then cos (2*pi), etc. also work. Does this mean the set is not a vector space, because the zero element is not unique? Or is it still a vector space (all other axioms check out) because cos (0) = cos (2*pi) = 1 ?
 
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I'm a little confused... what's your underlying field? How is multiplication between a field element and vector element defined?

Steven
 
As long as it satifies the axioms of a vector space it is a vector space. The set of vectors may be a partition of another set defined by an equiavlence relation (which I think is what you're getting at).
 
The zero vector in a vector space of functions is the ZERO function if f(x)=0 for all x. Is that the kind of thing you're after?
 
I understand now. You guys were a lot of help!
 

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