Expectation value of an anti-Hermitian operator

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The discussion centers on the expectation value of anti-Hermitian operators in quantum mechanics, specifically exploring whether such expectation values are purely imaginary numbers. The scope includes theoretical reasoning and mathematical justification.

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  • One participant asks how to demonstrate that the expectation value of an anti-Hermitian operator is a pure imaginary number.
  • Another participant references a previous solution found on the forum and suggests using the search function to locate it.
  • A third participant requests clarification on the referenced post, indicating difficulty in understanding the explanation provided.
  • A participant explains that for an anti-self-adjoint linear operator, the expectation value for an eigenstate corresponds to the eigenvalue, leading to the conclusion that the real part of the eigenvalue must be zero.
  • Another participant presents an alternative argument, stating that if an operator is anti-Hermitian, then multiplying it by \(i\) results in a Hermitian operator, which implies that the eigenvalues of the anti-Hermitian operator are purely imaginary.
  • One participant acknowledges the contributions of others, thanking them for their input.
  • Two participants engage in a meta-discussion about the terminology used, clarifying the distinction between "expectation" and "expected" in the context of expectation values.

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There is no consensus on a single method of proof, as multiple approaches are presented. Participants express differing views on terminology and clarity of explanation, indicating some level of disagreement or confusion.

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Some mathematical steps and assumptions are not fully resolved, particularly regarding the implications of anti-Hermitian operators and their eigenvalues. The discussion includes references to prior posts and external resources, which may not be universally accessible.

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Hi, could anyone tell me how one would show that the expectation value of a anti-Hermitian operator is a pure imaginary number? Thanks.
 
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I solved this problem once right on this site...(Dunno if in the QM forum,or college homework).Use the site's search engine,or google to find it...

Daniel.
 
Yes,post #2 of that thread.Consider an antiself-adjoint linear operator [itex]\hat{A}[/itex] for which u wish to prove that it has a spectrum made up of 0 & purely imaginary #-s...

[tex]\hat{A}|\psi\rangle=\lambda|\psi\rangle[/tex]

for an arbitrary eigenvector [itex]|\psi\rangle[/itex] corresponding to an eigenvalue [itex]\lambda[/itex]

Then,the expectation value for this eigenstate is the eigenvalue,because

[tex]\langle\hat{A}\rangle_{|\psi\rangle}=\langle\psi|\hat{A}|\psi\rangle=\lambda[/tex](1)

The matrix element involved in (1) has the property

[tex]\langle\psi|\hat{A}|\psi\rangle=\left(\langle\psi|\hat{A}^{\dagger}|\psi\rangle\right)^{*}=\left(-\lambda\right)^{*}[/tex] (2)

Equating (1) & (2),you get that

[tex]\lambda=-\lambda^{*}[/tex] (3)

which means [itex]\mbox{Re}(\lambda) =0[/itex],Q.e.d.

Daniel.
 
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In another form:

A anti hermitian => i.A is hermitian
=> eigenvalues of A= (eigenvalues of i.A)/i= -i.(real number)= imaginary number.
QED.


Seratend.
 
Ok thanks Daniel and Seratend.
 
By the way, "expectation" is a noun. "Expected" is an adjective.
The "expected value" is the "expectation".
 
HallsofIvy said:
By the way, "expectation" is a noun. "Expected" is an adjective.
The "expected value" is the "expectation".

I believe that used in this context, "expectation" becomes genitive, i.e. "value of an expectation". Other examples: economics textbook, price theory, etc.

Also - "expectation value" seems to be normal usage:

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ExpectationValue.html
 

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