How to differentiate an absolut value, f(x)=│x^2-4│

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The discussion revolves around differentiating the function f(x) = |x^2 - 4|, which involves absolute values and piecewise definitions. Participants explore the implications of the absolute value on the differentiation process, particularly at critical points where the expression inside the absolute value changes sign.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss defining the absolute value function in a piecewise manner based on the conditions of x^2 - 4. They raise questions about the differentiability of the function at the points x = 2 and x = -2, considering left and right-hand derivatives.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the differentiation by breaking the function into cases. There is ongoing exploration of the limits and the existence of derivatives at critical points, with some participants confirming the findings of others regarding the non-existence of the derivative at x = 2 and x = -2.

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Participants are working within the constraints of differentiating a function involving absolute values and are discussing the implications of piecewise definitions and limits at specific points.

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how do u differentiate f(x)=│x^2-4│...?
i don't know how to do it with absolute values...
 
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If I remember right, define it in a piecewise fashion. Can you see that:

|x^2 - 4| = x^2 - 4 if x^2 - 4 > 0

|x^2 - 4| = -(x^2 - 4) if x^2 - 4 < 0

The first condition becomes: if x^2 > 4 ===> |x| > 2, i.e. if x > 2 OR x < -2

The second becomes: if x^2 < 4 ===> |x| < 2, i.e. -2 < x < 2

So you have two cases. For x > 2 and x < -2, the function is:

f(x) = x^2 - 4, and you can differentiate it.

For -2 < x < 2, the function is:

f(x) = -x^2 + 4, and you can differentiate it.

The function is differentiable at x = 2 and x = -2 if and only if the left and right hand derivatives exist at those points.
 
It is quite instructive to use the DEFINITION of the derivative at the problem points 2 and -2.
I'll take the "2"-case:
In general, we have:
[tex]f'(2)=\lim_{\bigtriangleup{x}\to{0}}\frac{f(2+\bigtriangleup{x})-f(2)}{\bigtriangleup{x}}[/tex]
if it exists.
In our case, [tex]f(x)=|x^{2}-4|[/tex]
which implies [tex]f(2)=0,f(2+\bigtriangleup{x})=|(2+\bigtriangleup{x})^{2}-4|=|4\bigtriangleup{x}+(\bigtriangleup{x})^{2}|[/tex]
Hence, we must have:
[tex]f'(2)=\lim_{\bigtriangleup{x}\to0}\frac{|\bigtriangleup{x}|}{\bigtriangleup{x}}|4+\bigtriangleup{x}|[/tex]
if it exists.
Can it exist?
 
i found the first reply easier to understand...
f(x)=x^2-4
f'(x)=2x
f'(x) as x->2+ would equal 2(2)=4

f(x)=-x^2+4
f'(x)=-2x
f'(x) as x->2- would equal -2(2)=-4
so does not exist at x=2

f(x)=x^2-4
f'(x)=2x
f'(x) as x->-2- would equal 2(-2)=-4

f(x)=-x^2+4
f'(x)=-2x
f'(x) as x->-2+ would equal -2(-2)=4
so does not exist at x=-2
is that right?
 
Yes that's right, because the limit does not exist therefore the derivative does not exist at those points.
 
okay...i see...thanks guys...
 

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