So, to answer the question: Why is the shadow during a lunar eclipse not black?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of shadows, particularly in the context of a lunar eclipse, and whether shadows can exhibit color. Participants explore the conditions under which colored shadows can occur and the implications of light transmission and ambient light on shadow appearance.

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  • Some participants propose that colored shadows can exist if there is selective transmission of light, citing examples like tinted glass.
  • Others argue that the presence of color implies light is getting through, which contradicts the definition of a shadow.
  • A participant provides an example involving multiple colored light sources to illustrate how shadows can take on the ambient color of the environment.
  • Another participant agrees, stating that shadows reflect the ambient color minus the light being blocked, using the example of blue shadows on snow due to the blue sky light.
  • A later reply introduces the lunar eclipse as an example of a colored shadow, explaining that red light refracted from the Earth's atmosphere contributes to the color observed during the eclipse.
  • One participant notes that the concept of a shadow has limited scientific significance and is influenced by human perception and the visible spectrum limitations.

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Participants express differing views on the definition of a shadow and whether colored shadows can exist, indicating that multiple competing views remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the definition of a shadow may vary and that human perception plays a significant role in how shadows are interpreted. There is also mention of the limitations of human vision concerning the electromagnetic spectrum.

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I want to ask if there is coloured shadow ??If so, how to make it??
 
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You might say that anything that selectively transmits certain optical wavelengths has a colored shadown. Tinted glass or colored saran wrap, for example.
 
Color would mean that light is getting through which makes it inherinitly, not a shadow.
 
Pengwuino said:
Color would mean that light is getting through which makes it inherinitly, not a shadow.

i don't think that is the definition of a shadow.

imagine a room (more likely a stage) where there are a bunch of identical red filter lamps flooding the place. then imagine one single cyan (blue-green) lamp that is shining on you or some other object that has enough brightness so that most of the places where this cyan light mixes with the red light, it looks pretty much white. but you or that object casts a shadow because there is just one cyan light source, however there is red light everywhere (because there are many different red light sources in different locations). where there is the absence of cyan light because you or that object is blocking it, there is a shadow. but that shadow will be red.

r b-j
 
rbl is correct. A shadow is going to be the ambient colour of the space minus whatever light is being blocked.

That's why shadows on white snow are blue; it's not an illusion. The shadowed areas of snow are still well-lit by strongly-blue sky light, whereas the more yellow light from the sun is blocked.

Note by the way, that in rbj's example and my example we've used complimentary colours (cyan-red, yellow-blue), but this is merely coincidence. On a stage lit with red and green spotlights the shadows from objects blocking the red spotlight will be green.
 
Nice example, rbj. I thought of an even better example of a colored shadow with partial transmission: a lunar eclipse! When the sun, earth, and moon are lined up in space, then the moon sits in the Earth's shadow. It's not black, however. Why? Because there is a small amount of red light refracted from the atmosphere along the edges of the earth, the same light we see during a sunset.

We should keep in mind when considering these things that a "shadow" is a concept with relatively little scientific significance. They generally arise when a direct source of light is shining on a surface that's being obscured by another object. In human perception, this effect is exaggerated by two biological facts:

1) The human eye tends to exaggerate color and shade contrast. This ability has obvious evolutionary benefits for picking out certain objects (say, a predator) on a continuous background.
2) We only see a small part of the electromagnetic spectrum.

That second one means that we can't tell whether a particular shadow extends beyond visible wavelengths (~400-800 nanometers). A human, for example, is optically thin to some radio and gamma-rays, so if we could see that part of the spectrum, there would no noticable shadow.
 

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