Calculating Surface Area around a Vertical Line: Tips and Tricks"

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The discussion revolves around calculating the surface area of a function, specifically the curve defined by y = x^3, when rotated around a vertical line, x = 4. Participants explore how to set up the integral for this scenario and compare it to cases where the rotation is around the y-axis or another vertical line.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss how to adjust the integral for surface area when rotating around different axes, particularly focusing on the implications of rotating around x = 4 versus the y-axis. Questions arise about how to modify the integral's limits and the terms representing the radius of rotation.

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Some participants have provided insights into the integral setup and the necessary adjustments for different axes of rotation. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, with one participant expressing clarity on the problem after receiving guidance.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of integrating with respect to y and adjusting for the distance from the axis of rotation, particularly in relation to the specified vertical line at x = 4. There is a mention of confusion regarding substitutions in the integral formula.

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Surface area help please...

How do you find a surface area of a function around a vertical line?

For example: surface of [tex]\ y=x^3[/tex] between [tex]\ 0<= x <= 3[/tex], rotating around [tex]\ x=4[/tex]?

I tried the formula for finding surface area, but I confuse with that vertical line x=4... what should I do?
 
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How would you set up the integral if it asked you to rotate it around the y-axis and what change can you make to account for this difference?
 
If around the y-axis, then the integral should be

[tex]\int 2\pi*y^{1/3}* \sqrt{1+ {1/9}*y^{-4/3}}*dy[/tex]

right? From then, what change should I make to adjust with that x=3 vertical line?
 
Well, I just need to know how to adjust that integral with the vertical line at x=3... the formula is easy, but the interval of integral should be ...?
 
yeuVi said:
If around the y-axis, then the integral should be

[tex]\int 2\pi*y^{1/3}* \sqrt{1+ {1/9}*y^{-4/3}}*dy[/tex]

right? From then, what change should I make to adjust with that x=3 vertical line?

Your integral for around the axis x = 0 contains the radical term that represents the line segment along the curve from y to y + dy. It also contains a term that represents the distance of that line segment from the axis of rotation related to computing the circumference of the circle around the axis. If you move to a new axis, the thing that changes is the circumference of the circle around the axis of rotation. How far are you from the new axis of rotation for each value of y?
 
Im sorry... You lost me... I guess what u try to say is that I substituted y with (y+3) in the integral formula?
 
yeuVi said:
Im sorry... You lost me... I guess what u try to say is that I substituted y with (y+3) in the integral formula?

The integral you wrote for rotation around x = 0 was

[tex]\int 2\pi*y^{1/3}* \sqrt{1+ {1/9}*y^{-4/3}}*dy[/tex]

The part of the integrand that is

[tex]2\pi*y^{1/3[/tex]

is the circumference of a circle around the x = 0 axis of rotation corresponding to any particular value of y = x^3. The radical term times dy is the length of the curve y = x^3 between a particular value of y and y + dy. Isn't that how you found the integrand?

What you must change is not the length of the curve between y and y + dy. You must change the circumference of the circle around the axis for that value of y. The new radius of the circle would be (4 - x) expressed in terms of y. Do you see why? Draw the curve and the axis of rotation.
 
Thank you very much... now I got the problem...^_^
 

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