Unifying GR & QM with Noncommutative Geometry

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The discussion centers on the unification of general relativity (GR) and quantum mechanics (QM) through the framework of noncommutative geometry. Participants explore theoretical implications, mathematical formulations, and the potential for this approach to address quantum gravity and related phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight the increasing importance of noncommutative geometry in the search for quantum gravity and its applications in superstring theory.
  • One participant mentions that the generalized Einstein equation in the proposed model resembles an eigenvalue equation for the generalized Ricci operator, with random operators in the quantum sector.
  • Another participant notes that the theory is described as strongly non-local, suggesting it provides a basis for understanding quantum entanglement and superluminal communication, potentially linking to Machian principles.
  • A participant expresses skepticism regarding the implications of the EPR experiments and challenges the assertion that they demonstrate superluminal communication.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of the EPR experiments and the nature of superluminal communication, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the theory's validity and interpretations.

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Some claims depend on specific interpretations of quantum mechanics and general relativity, and the discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps related to the proposed model.

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I've just found that article about noncommutative model unifying GR & QM.

http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0504014

A few quotes:

Noncommutative geometry plays an increasingly important role in the present search for quantum gravity. It has also recently been recognized that it is a useful tool in superstring theory. In a series of papers, we have proposed our own approach to the unification of general relativity and quantum mechanics based on noncommutative geometry.

We show that the generalized Einstein equation of the model has the form of the eigenvalue equation for the generalized Ricci operator, and all relevant operators in the quantum sector of the model are random operators; we study their dynamics. We also show that the model correctly reproduces general relativity and the usual quantum mechanics.
 
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The role of groupoids in quantisation is a important point :-)
 
The big conclusion of this paper (futher elaborated here: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/9806/9806011.pdf ) is that their theory is strongly "non-local", in other words, it naturally provides a basis for the EPR experiments which demonstrated that quantum entanglement can allow particles at a distance to communicate superluminally. It is also (?as a consequence?) strongly Machian. The investigators suspect a sub-Plank regime at which this operators and a spin foam like ambiguous micro-spacetime geometry of space.

I must admit that having a principle research in the Vatican, and two others in Warsaw (closely associated with the late Pope John Paul II), does raise an eyebrow or two, but it is an interesting theory.
 
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ohwilleke said:
the EPR experiments which demonstrated that quantum entanglement can allow particles at a distance to communicate superluminally.

Did not either.
 

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