Unmovable object and an unstoppable object

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The discussion revolves around the theoretical scenario of an immovable object colliding with an unstoppable object, particularly in the context of physics and metaphysics. Participants explore the implications of such a collision, including potential outcomes like the creation of energy forces or phenomena such as black holes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant posits that a collision between an immovable object and an unstoppable object could create a high-energy environment, possibly resembling a "local big bang," but doubts it would form a black hole.
  • Others argue that the concepts of an immovable object and an unstoppable object are mutually exclusive, suggesting they cannot coexist in any reality.
  • Some participants emphasize that nothing is impossible until proven otherwise, referencing historical scientific breakthroughs to support their views.
  • A later reply humorously suggests that the two objects might find common ground rather than resulting in a catastrophic event.
  • Another participant clarifies that the definitions of immovable and irresistible force inherently exclude the possibility of their coexistence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the coexistence of the two objects, with some asserting that they cannot exist together while others maintain that the scenario is worth exploring despite its theoretical nature.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of immovable and unstoppable objects, which may not be universally accepted or clearly defined. The implications of their collision remain speculative and unresolved.

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Theoretically speaking, if out in space, you have two objects, one being an immoveable object, and the other being an unstoppable object traveling at the speed of light, and neither being able to be destroyed or forced off course in any form or fashion, what would happen if said two objects should collide? Is it possible that these two forces would create a separate energy force such as a 'black hole'?
 
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an unmovable object and an unstoppable object can't possibly coexist...
 
Both concepts are mutually exclusive, impossible.
 
nothing is impossible until proven otherwise and the question still remains.
 
back in the 1930's and 1940's there was a thinktank that was thrown together of many different scientists extracted from many different countries with the theory of the splitting of an atom. It was said that it was unable to be done... it was impossible. Thus, we have the hydrogen and the atom bomb... the splitting of atoms. Therefore, it was an impossibility waiting to be proven.
 
it is possible(that is to say that the immovable object will cause the unstoppable object to change directions)...the collision would create a high energetic environment around it...perhaps a "local big bang". I doubt that it could create a black hole(which sucks up things) because its squeezing the space between them pushing everything around it
 
I would think that, after a great deal of noise, they would find they had more in common than not, and they would start dating.

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z4955 said:
back in the 1930's and 1940's there was a thinktank that was thrown together of many different scientists extracted from many different countries with the theory of the splitting of an atom. It was said that it was unable to be done... it was impossible. Thus, we have the hydrogen and the atom bomb... the splitting of atoms. Therefore, it was an impossibility waiting to be proven.

Totally different animal. What you are talking about is the old chestnut of an inmovable object meeting an irresistable force. In this case we are dealing with mutually exclusive properties. By definition an inmovable object is one that cannot be moved by any existing force. By definition an irresistable force is a force that can move any existing object. Thus in any reality in which one exists, the existence of the other is automatically excluded. They can not meet because by definition they can not co-exist.
 
When an irresistible force such as you
Meets an old immovable object like me
You can bet as sure as you live
Somewhere, sometime, somehow
Something's got to give

- J. Mercer
 

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