Centre of gravity and dynamics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of center of gravity (CG) and its implications in dynamics, particularly in the context of a circular rod rotating about a pin. Participants explore the reasoning behind drawing acceleration vectors from the CG as opposed to other points on the rod, examining the relationship between acceleration, forces, and torque.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why acceleration vectors are drawn from the CG, suggesting that other points on the rod could also be used for solving the problem.
  • Another participant argues that if acceleration were considered at any point other than the CG, it would introduce torque about the center of mass, implying that using the CG provides pure translational acceleration.
  • A further contribution emphasizes that the accelerations at the CG are directly related to external forces acting on the body, while accelerations at other points depend on both external and internal forces.
  • One participant defines the CG as a theoretical point where all mass can be considered to exist, suggesting that applying accelerations at this point makes sense when analyzing forces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of using the CG for drawing acceleration vectors, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain on this topic.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding the relationship between acceleration, forces, and the choice of reference points in dynamics problems.

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in a dynamics problem the example in a book shows a circular rod rotating about a pin at the end. Now the author says that the
cg of the rod is at a point and he draws an acceleration vector from cg towards the pin and says that it is the normal acceleration and a perpendicular component called tangential acceleration. My question is why these two acceleration vectors should be drawn from cg why not
from any other point in the rod and the problem solved
 
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If the acceleration was to be on any part aside from the CM then there would be a torque about the center of mass. An acceleration at the CM gives pure translational accel.
 
chandran said:
in a dynamics problem the example in a book shows a circular rod rotating about a pin at the end. Now the author says that the
cg of the rod is at a point and he draws an acceleration vector from cg towards the pin and says that it is the normal acceleration and a perpendicular component called tangential acceleration. My question is why these two acceleration vectors should be drawn from cg why not
from any other point in the rod and the problem solved
C.G.'s accelerations are directly related to the EXTERNAL forces acting upon the body.
The acceleration of any other point is related to the forces acting at that point (mass), whether those forces are external or internal to the body as a whole.
 
What is the definition of a CG? It's a theoretical point that all of the mass can be thought of existing in an object. If you are looking for forces and only have an acceleration, shouldn't it seem that the accelerations would make the most sense to be applied at the point where all of the mass exists?
 

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