What power do you raise 3 to to get 9

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The discussion revolves around understanding logarithms, specifically how to determine the exponent to which a base must be raised to yield a given number. The focus is on the logarithm of 16 to the base 2, with participants exploring methods to calculate this value and clarify concepts related to logarithmic functions.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about calculating log162 and questions whether 0.25 is the correct answer.
  • Another participant suggests recognizing that 16 can be expressed as 24.
  • A participant provides a method for calculating log162 using the change of base formula, showing that log162 equals 0.25.
  • There is a mention of the change of base formula for logarithms, indicating that calculators typically use base 10.
  • One participant confirms that 0.25 is indeed the correct answer, providing a calculation method involving logarithms of any base.
  • There is a clarification about the notation "ln," which stands for the natural logarithm, and its relevance in calculations.
  • Another participant notes that calculations can be performed using logarithms of any base, including base 10.

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While some participants agree that 0.25 is the correct answer and provide methods to calculate it, there is no explicit consensus on the understanding of logarithmic concepts among all participants. Some express confusion and seek further clarification.

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Participants reference different bases for logarithms and the use of calculators, indicating that familiarity with logarithmic properties may vary among them. There is also mention of the natural logarithm, which may not yet be covered in the original poster's coursework.

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This discussion may be useful for students learning about logarithms, particularly those encountering challenges with base conversions and calculator usage in logarithmic calculations.

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Hello again..
Alright I am now on the part of 12th grade calculus, dealing with logs and exponents and stuff. I understand if say log39 That its basically what power do you raise 3 to to get 9. Well a question i need to answer is log162. So what power to I raise 16 to to get 2? I used my calculator just trying to find a number that would work, and i got 0.25. How would I show work for that? all of the solutions they gave for different equations worked different like for the log39They showed 2 ways:
3^x=9
3^x=3^2
x=2
OR
log39=log3(3^2)
=2
None of these solutions work for 16 since 2 is 2^1 and 16^1 is 16 not 2... I am confused.. Is 0.25 even the right answer.
Any Help is appreciated greatly!
Thanks ya!
 
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hint: 16=2^4
 
Yes.Use this property of the logarithms wrt a change of basis.

[tex]\log_{16}2=\frac{\ln 2}{\ln 16}=\frac{\ln 2}{4\ln 2}=\frac{1}{4}=0.25[/tex]

Daniel.
 
Have you heard of a change of base? You calculator can only do log base 10. Here is the formula

[tex]\log_b a = \frac {\log_c a}{\log_c b}[/tex] where c can be anything. But why not set that to 10 so your calculator can crunch it.
 
0.25 is the correct answer, because 16^(0.25) = 2.

The easiest way to compute logs like [itex]\log_b x[/itex] on a calculator is to compute

[tex]\log_b x = \frac{\log x}{\log b}[/tex]

where the logs on the right can be any base at all (10, e, whatever). In other words, to find [itex]\log_{16} 2[/itex] on your calculator, punch up (log 2 / log 16).

- Warren
 
Thanks, but what does the In stand for...
 
I don't think so.Any (scientifical) calculator should have natural logarithm.It's eseential.

Daniel.
 
m0286 said:
Thanks, but what does the In stand for...

That's probably "ln", the "natural logarithm", and it means the logarithm to the base e=2.1718..., if you haven't met it in your class yet, it's probably not far off.
 
Dexter's post using natural logs can just as well be done with logs of any base, including 10.

- Warren
 

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