Solving Circuits Problem with 3 Equations

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The discussion revolves around a circuits problem involving three mesh currents and two voltages, with participants exploring the relationship between the equations and the unknown components in the circuit. The context includes phasor representation of currents and voltages.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the challenge of having more unknowns than equations and consider the implications of separating equations into real and imaginary components to potentially create additional equations.

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Some participants suggest that expanding the equations into their real and imaginary parts may provide a viable path forward, indicating a productive direction in the discussion. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants note the lack of information regarding the circuit components, which adds complexity to the problem-solving process. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to proceed given the current setup.

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Hi, I would like some hints on this problem here. I seem to have too many unknowns than equations that I can write. Assume that I am given the current for the three meshes and the two voltages. However I don't know anything about the components in the circuits.

I have these 3 equations, note that the currents I and V are all phasors. I just don't want to type \mathbf over and over again.

[tex]I_1 Z_4 + (I_1 - I_3)Z_{L_3} = V_{S_1}[/tex]
[tex](I_2- I_3)Z_{C_2} + I_2 Z_5 = V_{S_2}[/tex]
[tex]I_3 R_3 + I_3 Z_{L_3} + (I_3 - I_2)Z_{C_2} + (I_3 - I_1)Z_{L_1} = 0[/tex]

How can I solve for anyone of the components?
 

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Corneo said:
Hi, I would like some hints on this problem here. I seem to have too many unknowns than equations that I can write. Assume that I am given the current for the three meshes and the two voltages. However I don't know anything about the components in the circuits.

I have these 3 equations, note that the currents I and V are all phasors. I just don't want to type \mathbf over and over again.

[tex]I_1 Z_4 + (I_1 - I_3)Z_{L_3} = V_{S_1}[/tex]
[tex](I_2- I_3)Z_{C_2} + I_2 Z_5 = V_{S_2}[/tex]
[tex]I_3 R_3 + I_3 Z_{L_3} + (I_3 - I_2)Z_{C_2} + (I_3 - I_1)Z_{L_1} = 0[/tex]

How can I solve for anyone of the components?

If you have all the phasors, then you have more than three equations. Each of your equations can be divided into phase components (real and imaginary parts if you are using complex representation). Looks to me like you effectively have six equations and six unknowns.
 
So your saying I should expand out the real and imaginary parts to get 3 more equations?
 
Corneo said:
So your saying I should expand out the real and imaginary parts to get 3 more equations?

Yes. That's the way it looks to me. You can write the impedences as complex and you have the voltages and currents as complex. The reals must equal the reals and the imaginaries must equal the imaginaries.
 

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