A compound containing Ti and Chlorine

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The discussion revolves around determining the simplest formula of a compound containing titanium (Ti) and chlorine (Cl) based on experimental data. Participants analyze the conversion of Ti into TiO2 and Cl into AgCl, exploring the calculations and methodologies involved in deriving the empirical formula.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation of moles of TiO2 and AgCl to find the empirical formula, questioning if they are on the right track.
  • Another participant agrees with the mole calculations but suggests using percentage mass of elements in compounds for verification, indicating that the method used may not always be reliable.
  • A participant calculates the ratio of moles to conclude that the empirical formula is TiCl3, expressing confusion about the relevance of silver and oxygen in the question.
  • Another participant clarifies that AgCl is used to check the amount of chloride ions and mentions a similar procedure for determining Ti, although they are unsure of the specifics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mole calculations, but there is no consensus on the necessity of using percentage masses or the relevance of the silver and oxygen in the context of the question.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the reliability of different methods for determining empirical formulas and the relevance of certain compounds in the analysis, which remain unresolved.

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Students and individuals interested in chemistry, particularly those studying empirical formulas and methods of analysis in chemical compounds.

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This is the question am working on... A compound containing Ti and Chlorine is analyzed by converting all the Ti into 1.20g of TiO2 and all the chlorine into 6.45g of AgCl. What is the simplest formula...?

This is what I've done so far:
Moles of TiO2 = 1.20g/80g/mol = 0.015

Moles of AgCl 6.45g/143.4g/mol = 0.045

Am I on the right track? What do I do from here??
 
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Welcome to PF Lindy12!

The moles that you have calculated are the same as mine. However, I found the percentage mass of each element in each compound to find my answers. The point is (to my knowledge) it might not always work the way you have done it. You may need the percentage masses to be sure of what you have and what you are working with.

Knowing these moles you can find the empirical formula by dividing both by the smaller of the two to give you a ratio that will give you the formula.

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
Thanks The Bob :)
I'm really struggling with chemistry, as you can tell.

So, I went on to take 0.015 mol/0.015 mol = 1
and then 0.045 mol/0.015 mol = 3

So my final answer is TiCl3

What does the silver and oxygen have to do with the question?
 
Awesome! Thank you :)
 

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