Circuit Troubleshooting: Need Help to Keep Lights On & Laser Bright

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a circuit design involving light bulbs and a laser in a 28 volt DC setup. Participants explore how to maintain the brightness of the laser while keeping the light bulbs lit, addressing issues of power distribution and circuit configuration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern that the light bulbs are consuming too much power, resulting in a dim laser, and asks for a solution to keep both operational.
  • Another participant suggests wiring the power indicator lamps in parallel with the laser instead of in series to improve performance.
  • There are discussions about using a relay to switch the laser's supply and the implications of wiring configurations on circuit performance.
  • One participant questions the necessity of grounding in circuit diagrams, seeking clarification on its role in completing the circuit.
  • Another participant mentions the importance of ensuring that indicator lamps function as safety features in some commercial lasers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best wiring configuration for the circuit, with some advocating for parallel connections while others suggest alternative methods. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach to achieve the desired circuit functionality.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not specified the current requirements of the laser, which may affect the proposed solutions. Additionally, there are unresolved questions about the grounding of circuit diagrams and its implications for circuit functionality.

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Circuit Help!

Help!

I am trying to design thsi circuit for some friends, however, having the 2 light bulbs in the circuit seem to "eat" all of the power, cuasing the laser to be VERY dim. Isn't there an electronic component taht i can jump across the light bulbs that will allow them to stay lit (no matter how dim) while letting the laser get close to full power? It is a 28 volt DC circuit with a 5 amp circuit breaker in it. The power source has a common ground with the circuit.
Thanks in advance.
 

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you are trying to indicate that the laser is on??
 
Yes, i have it set up so it can be turned on or off from 2 different places, w/ indication that it is on. I would use lower impedence bulbs, but i don't have any. The Laser in infrared, so it can only be seen w/ NVG's.
 
going to bed now, if anyone can help, please do, thanks
 
Why not have your power indicator lamps in parallel with your laser instead of in series?
 
How would i do that?
 
You don't want your load (laser) and indicators to be wired in series; you want them to be wired in parallel. Use one switch on the the 28V supply for the entire circuit. Alternatively, use a relay to switch the laser's supply.

- Warren
 
Do it like this. Consider the LED to be the laser. Depending on the ratings of your lamps, you might want to put the lamps in series, maybe even with a resistor (but keep the laser parallel to them).
 

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i hope this pic comes out..
it shows your laser connected to your 28 V power source ..
you did not say how much current your laser uses ?? just that it had a 5A fuse..therefore i could not specify exactly what R1 should be..but it should be just enough to fully turn on both FETs thus turning on your indicator lamps when the laser is on .. also i did not include the switch but you can put it in the leg coming out of the battery positive..
 

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  • #10
chroot said:
You don't want your load (laser) and indicators to be wired in series; you want them to be wired in parallel. Use one switch on the the 28V supply for the entire circuit. Alternatively, use a relay to switch the laser's supply.

- Warren
Actually in some comercial lasers (Coherent) there is an Laser emission light that is on when the beam is active. It is a safety feature, the light MUST be on when the beam is on, the way it is wired if the bulb burns out the laser will not come on.
 
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This is such a noob question, but why is willib's diagram grounded? I can see why cosmik's diagram is ground (to complete the circuit), but why does a circuit connected from - to + on the battery need to be grounded?
 
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mister_okay said:
This is such a noob question, but why is willib's diagram grounded? I can see why cosmik's diagram is ground (to complete the circuit), but why does a circuit connected from - to + on the battery need to be grounded?
It is just to indicate which side of the circuit is attached directly to the negative pole of the battery. It is at the lowest potential of the circuit, zero volts.
 

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