Diff. Eq. Problem -> y'' - 2y' - 3y = -3 t e^(-t) What is general solution?

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This discussion revolves around a differential equation problem from a textbook, specifically focusing on finding the general solution for the equation y'' - 2y' - 3y = -3t e^(-t). Participants are exploring methods for solving this equation, particularly the method of undetermined coefficients and variations of parameters.

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  • The original poster attempts to find a particular solution using the method of undetermined coefficients but encounters difficulties with their initial choice. They later consider a different form suggested by another participant. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the chosen particular solution and the process of determining coefficients.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering alternative approaches and discussing the reasoning behind their choices. Some guidance has been provided regarding the selection of the particular solution, and there is an ongoing exploration of the equations derived from substituting into the differential equation.

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There is a mention of the characteristic equation and the complementary solution, which indicates that the problem involves both homogeneous and particular solutions. The discussion reflects a learning environment where assumptions about the solution forms are being questioned and refined.

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Diff. Eq. Problem ---> y'' - 2y' - 3y = -3 t e^(-t) What is general solution?

This is problem number 3 in section 3.6 in Boyce, DiPrima 8th Edition "Elementary Differential Equations and boundary Value Problems"

Find the general solution of the differential equation:

[tex]y'' - 2y' - 3y = -3 t e^{-t}[/tex]

Here is what I have done so far:

The characteristic equation is [tex]r^2 - 2r - 3 = 0[/tex] and [tex]r_1 = 3, r_2 = -1[/tex]

That gives [tex]y(t) = C_1 e^{3t} + C_2 e^{-t}[/tex] as the complementary solution.

Now I run into trouble when selecting the superposition equation for using the method of undetermined coefficients. I tried [tex]Y(t) = (A t + B) e^{-t}[/tex] with no luck. I get [tex]A = \frac{3}{4} t[/tex] for an answer, which is incorrect.

The book lists the answer as [tex]y(t) = C_1 e^{3t} + C_2 e^{-t} + \frac{3}{16} t e^{-t} + \frac{3}{8} t^2 e^{-t}[/tex]

What am I doing wrong? Is the [tex]Y(t)[/tex] I chose correct? Please help!

Thank you.
 
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Try a particular solution [tex]Y(t)=(At^{2}+Bt)e^{-t}[/tex]
and determine A, B.
 
Thanks

I tried it and it sounds more reasonable. Why must this be the particular solution instead of the one I origianlly chose?

I'm still having trouble. I have the Y, Y', Y'' all substituted and I get [tex]-6A - 4B = -3t[/tex] How do I solve this for A and B? There must be a second equation in there somewhere right?
 
The reason (At+B)e-t didn't work is that e-t is already a solution to the homogeneous differential equation. You should have learned that, in situations like that, you multiply by t (or higher powers of t is te-t, etc. are also solutions). Here you should try, as Arildno said, t(At+ B)e-t= (At2+ Bt)e-t.
Now you say you got -6A- 4B= -3t. How?

If y= (At2+ Bt)e-t, then y'= -(At2+ Bt)e-t+ (2At+ B)e-t and y"= (At2+ Bt)e-t- 2(2At+B)e-t+ 2Ae-t

y"= (At2+ Bt)e-t- 2(2At+B)e-t+ 2Ae-t
-2y'= 2(At2+ Bt)e-t-2(2At+ B)e-t
-3y= -3((At2+ Bt)e-t)

The first terms cancel leaving -4(2At+B)e-t+2Ae-t= -3te-t. Dividing both sides by e-t leaves
-4(2At+ B)+ 2A= -3t or -8At+ (-4B+2A)= -3t. We must have -8A= -3 and -4B+2A= 0.
 
Try the method of Lagrange of varying the constants.

Daniel.
 

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