Which Chemical Calculations Do You Want Automated? Poll

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the automation of chemical calculations, specifically identifying which types of calculations participants find tedious or time-consuming. The scope includes various areas of chemical kinetics and equilibrium, with a focus on potential new calculator functionalities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests automating the solving of kinetics equations for second and higher order reactions involving multiple reactants, noting the complexity of the resulting differential equations.
  • Another participant expresses interest in static equilibrium calculations but acknowledges the challenges posed by kinetic reactions, particularly chaotic systems like the Belousov-Zhabotinsky reaction.
  • A different participant mentions the difficulty of deriving kinetics from spectrophotometric data in reactions involving ferredoxin and Fe-S clusters.
  • One participant shares a link to a Chemical Kinetics Simulator, emphasizing its stochastic approach, but another participant points out that the original link was broken and provides a corrected version.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various interests in different types of calculations, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding which calculations should be prioritized for automation. There is no consensus on a single type of calculation to focus on.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the complexity of certain reactions and the limitations of current tools, but these aspects remain unresolved and are not fully explored.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in chemical kinetics, automation of chemical calculations, and those looking for tools to simplify complex chemical computations may find this discussion relevant.

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Some of you are aware of the fact I have already prepared two chemical calculators (see signature). I am planning to extend the line of programs and I have several ideas about what could the next calculator do. However, before starting work I decided to do a quick poll:

What type of calculations would you like to have automated?

Which calculations are the most tedious?

Which calculations are eating most of your time, regardless of the fact that you know how to do them?

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Solving kinetics equations for second and higher order reactions with more than one reactant.

Often end up with a mess of differential equations that need mathematica (or something similar) to solve.
 
I hope numerical results will be enough? :wink:

I was thinking mostly about static equilibrium so far, perhaps because that's the area I feel comfortable with. But kinetic can be interesting too.

That can be challenging - things like Belousow-Zabothynski (I am not sure about spelling of the names) reaction are driven by kinetics of numerous reactions taking part; result is chaotic and extremely difficult to calculate. Something like wheather :smile:

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Some time ago, I was looking intosome reactions between ferredoxin and Fe-S clusters. The kinetics tells you a lot about the nature of the intermediate state, but is non-trivial to work out from spectrophotometric data.
 
Gokul43201 said:
Solving kinetics equations for second and higher order reactions with more than one reactant.

Often end up with a mess of differential equations that need mathematica (or something similar) to solve.

I posted this in the sicky for chem. web sites:

Chemical Kinetics Simulator (and it's free):

https://www.almaden.ibm.com/st/comp...cience/ck/msim/

Note it is based on a stochastic approach not deterministic.
 
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