Example Showing (A x B) U (X x Y) ≠ (A U X) x (B U Y)

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The discussion revolves around finding an example that demonstrates the inequality between the sets (A x B) U (X x Y) and (A U X) x (B U Y). Participants are exploring the validity of this equation for various choices of sets A, B, X, and Y.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to establish a relationship between elements in the sets and questions how to prove the inequality. Other participants suggest simplifying the sets to singletons and discuss the implications of cardinality on the sets involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some suggesting simpler examples while others are questioning the conditions under which the sets might yield prime cardinality. There is a mix of approaches being explored without a clear consensus on the next steps.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication that the original poster is considering proving the statement before finding a counterexample, which suggests a potential misunderstanding of the problem's requirements. The discussion also touches on the nature of set operations and cardinality.

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I have to find an example illustrating the the equation
(A x B) U (X x Y) = (A U X) x (B U Y) is not valid for all choices of sets A,B,X,Y.

I started out by saying that

let (x,y) be in A and B or
let (x,y) be in X and Y

Since x is in A and y is in B
--> (x,y) = (A x B)
Since x is in X and y is in Y
--> (x,y) = (X x Y)

Can I go on to say that since x is in A and x is in A
x is a subset of (A U X)?

How do I prove that this is not true?
 
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You're thinking much too hard. Pick A, B, X, Y as singletons, etc.
 
(A x B) U (X x Y) = (A U X) x (B U Y)
(A U X) x (B U Y) can never be of prime cardinality if A U X and B U Y are not singletons.

When can (A x B) U (X x Y) be of prime cardinality?
 
Is it when it's an intersection? Okay, so I will have to find a counterexample for it. Also, I was wondering if it's wise to start off by trying to prove the example, and then find out that its wrong, and then to find a counterexample for it.
 

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