Transistors and the development of physics

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The discussion centers on the significance of transistors in the context of physics, engineering, and applied science. Participants explore the historical transition from vacuum tubes to transistors, the implications for technology, and the relationship between engineering applications and theoretical physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that transistors represent a major advancement in engineering and applied science, highlighting their reliability and speed compared to vacuum tubes.
  • Others propose that transistors are significant to pure science as they were the first engineering application of quantum mechanics, illustrating the interplay between science and engineering.
  • A participant questions the characterization of transistors as "glorified crystals," suggesting that early crystals used in radios served a different function and that transistors have distinct capabilities such as amplification and switching.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that while the invention of the transistor may not be seen as a major advancement in physics itself, its applications have greatly advanced the field of physics and other sciences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of transistors in physics versus engineering, with no consensus reached on their classification or importance in the context of pure science.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific interpretations of the roles of transistors and crystals, and there are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and implications of these technologies in both physics and engineering.

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How is the transistor an important advancement in physics?
 
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You posted this thread with something that could not be built without transistors.
 
Transistors are a major development in engineering or applied science. Before they came into use, computers, radios, tv, etc. were all built around vacuum tubes. These were much less reliable than transistors and their successors - integrated circuits. Moreover, computers were much slower with vacuum tubes than with transistors. At the time of the first transition (late 1950's) computer speeds were increased by a factor of twelve.
 
I think the importance of transistors to pure science is that they were the first engineering application of quantum mechanics. It's also an interesting insight into how science and engineering work. The first radios used crystals rather than tubes- but crystals were pretty much an engineers "make do". Nobody knew enough theory about them to improve them much so tubes were developed instead. Then along came quantum theory and transistors- which are really glorified (and better understood) crystals.
 
HallsofIvy said:
I think the importance of transistors to pure science is that they were the first engineering application of quantum mechanics. It's also an interesting insight into how science and engineering work. The first radios used crystals rather than tubes- but crystals were pretty much an engineers "make do". Nobody knew enough theory about them to improve them much so tubes were developed instead. Then along came quantum theory and transistors- which are really glorified (and better understood) crystals.

Halls of Ivy,

Transistors are just glorified crystals?

Weren't the crystals in early radios just used to detect signals from modulated carriers; that is, weren't they just crude diodes? That's a long way from a transistor, a device that can amplify and switch.

I've always thought the invention of the transistor (let alone the integrated circuit) was outside the realm of physics, Nobel prizes not withstanding. But at least the Nobel citation for the IC got it right: not that its invention was such an advance in physics, but that its subsequent applications to instrumentation and data analysis advanced physics (and every other field of science) immeasurably.
 

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