Understanding Compound Suffixes: -ate, -ous, -ic, & More

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The discussion centers around the meanings and implications of the suffixes -ate, -ous, -ic, and others in the context of chemical compounds. Participants explore these suffixes in relation to organic, biochemistry, and general chemistry, examining their roles in naming conventions and ion states.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the meaning of the -ate suffix and requests information on other suffixes like -ous and -ic.
  • Another participant suggests using Google for information, providing a link to a resource on naming conventions.
  • A participant explains that in organic and biochemistry, the -ate suffix indicates a stable ion of a carboxylic acid at a specific pH, using pyruvic acid as an example.
  • This participant notes that at pH greater than 3, the carboxylic acid is predominantly found in its deprotonated form, referred to as "pyruvate."
  • They also mention that in general or inorganic chemistry, the -ate suffix designates oxidation states of polyatomic ions.

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The discussion includes multiple viewpoints regarding the meanings of the suffixes, with no consensus reached on a singular definition or application across different chemistry contexts.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying interpretations of the suffixes based on different branches of chemistry, highlighting the dependence on context and specific definitions.

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What does this -ate suffix with compounds mean? Can anybody tell about other suffixes like -ous -ic etc as well.

Thanks...
 
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Xishan said:
What does this -ate suffix with compounds mean? Can anybody tell about other suffixes like -ous -ic etc as well.

Thanks...

well, it depends, but in organic & biochemistry it means that you have a stable ion of a carboxylic acid at a particular pH.

for example, pyruvic acid:

[tex]CH_3COCOOH[/tex]

is the carboxylic acid. but at pH > 3, most of it will be found in the deprotonated form:

[tex]CH_3COCOO^-[/tex]

this is called "pyruvate". the same convention holds for other carboxylic acids.

if you are talking about general or inorganic chemistry, then "-ate" is used to designate oxidation states of polyatomic ions, as Dr. Mark's link indicates.
 
Thanks, Dr. Marks! that's all I was looking for
 

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