Can Matter from a Black Hole's Singularity Travel Back to Our Timeframe?

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The discussion centers around the nature of singularities within black holes and the implications of black hole evaporation on the matter contained within them. Participants explore theoretical concepts related to time, mass loss, and the behavior of black holes as they approach evaporation, touching on both quantum mechanics and general relativity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the singularity at the center of a black hole is always in the future due to time slowing down as one approaches it, raising questions about whether matter from the singularity could travel back into our timeframe upon black hole evaporation.
  • Others argue that the dynamics of black holes involve not only mass loss due to Hawking radiation but also the absorption of energy, suggesting a need to consider the net mass change of the black hole.
  • A participant mentions that as a black hole loses mass, the rate of Hawking radiation increases, leading to a rapid shrinkage until it potentially vanishes, although the exact fate of the black hole at this stage remains uncertain.
  • Another participant highlights the conflict between quantum theory and general relativity regarding the nature of singularities and the experience of time for an outside observer versus an infalling object.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the behavior of black holes and singularities, with no consensus reached on the implications of black hole evaporation or the nature of time within and around black holes.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in understanding the final stages of black hole evaporation, particularly regarding the fate of matter and the resolution of conflicts between quantum mechanics and general relativity. The discussion reflects ongoing uncertainties in the field.

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I read that the singularity at the centre of a black hole is always in the future since time slows down to zero the nearer you approach it . So when a black hole evaporates ,at the moment when its mass falls below where gravity overcomes the exclusion principle does the matter in the singularity travel back into our time-frame from the future ?
 
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PhilipF said:
I read that the singularity at the centre of a black hole is always in the future since time slows down to zero the nearer you approach it . So when a black hole evaporates ,at the moment when its mass falls below where gravity overcomes the exclusion principle does the matter in the singularity travel back into our time-frame from the future ?
Let us not forget that all black holes are also absorbing energy too. What you have to figure out from there is whether the black hole has an net increase or net decrease in mass.

Pete
 
hello Pete
I was thinking about the situation where the Black hole has used up all the matter within reach of its gravitational field and from then on seems to have a future of losing mass due to quantum fluctuations (Hawking radiation) I did a search for the answer to this but only found the following

http://cosmology.berkeley.edu/Education/BHfaq.html#q8

", the black hole gradually shrinks. It turns out that the rate of radiation increases as the mass decreases, so the black hole continues to radiate more and more intensely and to shrink more and more rapidly until it presumably vanishes entirely...
nobody is really sure what happens at the last stages of black hole evaporation: some researchers think that a tiny, stable remnant is left behind."

Hawking himself says "what happens when the mass of the black hole becomes extremely small is not quite clear but the most reasonable guess would be that it would disappear completely in a tremendous final burst of emission"
 
I read that the singularity at the centre of a black hole is always in the future since time slows down to zero the nearer you approach it .
What it is like inside a black hole is an open question - quantum theory and general relativity are in conflict in this regime.

The appearance of time slowing down is in the frame of an outside observer watching things fall in. These things never get there, as seen by the outside observer.
 

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