What is the law behind objects separating by size when shaken?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the phenomenon observed when shaking a container filled with objects of varying sizes, specifically addressing why larger objects tend to rise to the surface. Participants explore the underlying principles and terminology associated with this effect.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant refers to the phenomenon as the "Brazil Nut Effect," suggesting it is an established term.
  • Another participant proposes that the effect can be explained by percolation, where smaller particles fall through gaps created by larger particles.
  • A participant questions the mechanics of why smaller particles can fall through the gaps, prompting a discussion about the role of gravity.
  • It is noted that the shape and arrangement of the objects influence the gaps available for smaller particles, with larger objects creating larger gaps on average.

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Participants express differing views on the terminology and mechanisms involved, with no consensus reached on a single explanation or law governing the phenomenon.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights assumptions regarding the shapes of the objects and the conditions under which the effect occurs, which may influence the outcomes observed.

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hey,

I saw a question on "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" about a physics law where for example shaking a jar containing a big number of objects (like rocks, or chestnuts) will result in the bigger ones rising to the surface. I never got the chance to find the answer but does anyone know the name of this law so I can google it? or does anyone know how this works?
 
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It's not a "law"; it's an effect: the "Brazil Nut Effect".
 
Percolation, surely?

It's essentially the effect of small particles falling through the gaps between large particles.
 
The gaps are created by the larger material interfacing and colliding with other larger material. Why does the smaller material fall through the gaps?
 
"Why does the smaller material fall through the gaps?"
Gravity
 
Unless the objects are very regular in shape, the large objects have larger gaps between them than the small objects, on average. The small objects can't make it between the gaps between small objects, but can make it between the gaps between large objects.
 

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