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Cradle_of_Knowledge
Jul17-05, 11:12 PM
Hi,

I don't know where is to place this thread. Please can you solve the following integeration problem.
(Note: sign of integeration is replaced by "S").

S sin2x/1+sin²x dx

the answer in the book is "ln(1+sin²x)+c"

qbert
Jul17-05, 11:24 PM
rewrite the numerator using the trig identity sin(2x) = 2 sin(x)cos(x)
then look for a nice substitution.

Cradle_of_Knowledge
Jul17-05, 11:36 PM
Could you explain your answer!

James R
Jul18-05, 12:07 AM
\int \frac{\sin 2x}{1+sin^2 x}\,dx

Put u = 1 + sin^2 x. Then:

du = 2 \sin x \cos x\,dx = \sin 2x\,dx

So, your integral becomes:

\int \frac{1}{u}\,du = \ln u + c = \ln (1 + \sin^2 x) + c

Cyrus
Jul18-05, 12:08 AM
We can do the following:

sin(2x) = 2 sin(x)cos(x)

This can be placed in for sin(2x), giving us:

\frac{2sin(x)cos(x)}{1 + sin^2(x)}

Now we make a u-substitution:

u= 1+ sin^2 (x)

So

du = 2sin(x)cos(x)dx

and we can replace the integral as such:

\int \frac{1}{u}du

Now this is simply 1/u which equals ln (u)

so the anwser is ln(u), where u is equal to what we previously stated:

ln(1+sin^2(x))+C

where C is the constant of integration.

I hope that helps you out.

Cheers,

Cyrus

Edit: Damn, james beat me to it!GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :rofl:

James R
Jul18-05, 01:55 AM
Doh! Don't you hate it when that happens! :grumpy:

quasar987
Jul18-05, 02:44 AM
But it's never a wasted post. Seeing two ways of doing it, even though they're essentially the same, are always better then just one.

grant555
Jul18-05, 02:35 PM
But it's never a wasted post. Seeing two ways of doing it, even though they're essentially the same, are always better then just one.


I agree with you totally on this. I always found it comforting having more than one way to work a problem.

Cradle_of_Knowledge
Jul18-05, 08:32 PM
Can you solve this too
S (sinx-cos)² dx

Answer:- x+sin2x/2 +c

Cyrus
Jul18-05, 08:46 PM
Expand it out, and solve the integral, its not hard once you expand it. You will have a sin squared term, plus a cos squared term, which add up to one, plus a -2sinxcosx term. And if you notice, you can use the trig identity from your first question.

kant
Jul26-05, 09:51 PM
Hi,

I don't know where is to place this thread. Please can you solve the following integeration problem.
(Note: sign of integeration is replaced by "S").

S sin2x/1+sin²x dx

the answer in the book is "ln(1+sin²x)+c"

1) sin2x=2sinxcosx

2) u=sinx => du=cosx dx

the intergral come:

2 * intergral{ u/(1+u^2) du}

make substitution as again.

this time let w= 1+u^2 => dw= 2u du

blah blah....