Mr/s Knowledgable - Possibility of All-Round Knowledge?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of being knowledgeable across various subjects and the distinction between trivia and genuine knowledge. Participants explore the nature of knowledge, its acquisition, and the implications of claiming to know a lot about many topics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether it is possible to be knowledgeable about many subjects, suggesting that true knowledge involves understanding rather than just memorizing facts.
  • Others argue that trivia, while often seen as useless, differs from knowledge in that knowledge implies a deeper understanding of concepts.
  • A participant mentions that many people may claim to know more than they actually do, while those with true knowledge are more likely to acknowledge their limitations.
  • There are suggestions on how to acquire knowledge, including using one's senses, reading, thinking, and learning from mistakes.
  • Some participants express concern about individuals who speak authoritatively on topics they have little experience with, highlighting the importance of informed opinions.
  • A later reply discusses the phenomenon of freedom of expression, noting that while individuals can express opinions, it is ideal for them to be well-informed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express differing views on the nature of knowledge versus trivia, and there is no consensus on the possibility of being knowledgeable about all subjects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of claiming knowledge without experience.

Contextual Notes

Some participants emphasize the subjective nature of knowledge and the limitations of personal experience in discussions about various topics.

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Is it possible to be so knowledgeable about all sorts of things? :rolleyes:
 
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Have you watched Jeopardy?
 
What do you mean?
 
TheStatutoryApe said:
Have you watched Jeopardy?
That's trivia. Trivia is, by definition, not knowledge.
 
"He's a genius. A real genius... Why, Oppenheimer knows about everything. He can talk to you about anything you bring up. Well, not exactly. I guess there are a few things he doesn't know about. He doesn't know anything about sports."
 
Smurf said:
That's trivia. Trivia is, by definition, not knowledge.

I agree. I remember almost none of the facts I learned through school or uni, what I took away was ways of thinking, making deductions and conclusions. Trivia just reflects your memory.
 
What's the difference between trivia and knowledge? Trivia is useless and knowledge is useful?
 
Lisa! said:
Is it possible to be so knowledgeable about all sorts of things? :rolleyes:
Yes it is. Why do you ask?
 
knowledge implies understanding. Trivia is just facts.

For example, most people know who came up with e=mc^2, but have little or no knowledge of how it was derived.

Dictionary.com:

knowledge

1 a : awareness or understanding esp. of an act, a fact, or the truth
 
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Some people will profess to know more then they do, while others really do know a lot.
I find that the ones who really know a lot, are more likely to tell you when they don't know something.
 
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Astronuc said:
Yes it is.

How?



Why do you ask?
I'll tell you later. :smile:
 
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Lisa! said:
How?

Use one's senses - sight, smell, feel (touch), hear/listen, taste.

Read, think, contemplate, introspect, meditate. Understand. Question. Hypothesize. Theorize. Test.

Learn.

Know when one is wrong.

Make mistakes. Correct mistakes.

How many things? Two, three, five, 10, a dozen.

Acquisition of knowledge takes time.
 
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Astronuc said:
Use one's senses - sight, smell, feel (touch), hear/listen, taste.

Read, think, contemplate, introspect, meditate. Understand. Question. Hypothesize. Theorize. Test.

Learn.

Know when one is wrong.

Make mistakes. Correct mistakes.

How many things? Two, three, five, 10, a dozen.

Acquisition of knowledge takes time.
How poetic. And great advice too. :approve:
I once read someone describe Shakespeare as 'a man on whom nothing was lost'. It was the first time that I heard the phrase, and it's been one of my favorites ever since. Be a (hu)man on whom nothing is lost. :smile:
 
  • #14
Astronuc said:
Use one's senses - sight, smell, feel (touch), hear/listen, taste.

Read, think, contemplate, introspect, meditate. Understand. Question. Hypothesize. Theorize. Test.

Learn.

Know when one is wrong.

Make mistakes. Correct mistakes.

How many things? Two, three, five, 10, a dozen.

Acquisition of knowledge takes time.
Your suggestions are always useful. :smile:


why do you ask?
I see some people who jump into any discussion and some of them are really opinionated about what they say.For sure we can't be master in everything , but they think they are!Well you knw sometimes they commont on things that they have no experience about them.For example they commont on other countries' people.Although they never travel to that country, meet any person from that country or read any book or even watchany movie from that country! :bugeye:
 
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Lisa! said:
I see some people who jump into any discussion and some of them are really opinionated about what they say.For sure we can't be master in everything , but they think they are!Well you knw sometimes they commont on things that they have no experience about them.For example they commont on other countries' people.Although they never travel to that country, meet any person from that country or read any book or even watchany movie from that country! :bugeye:
I see your point.

Yes, the phenomenon is called "freedom of expression". One is free to say whatever one wishes, as long as if conforms to guidelines and rules to which one agrees as part of accepting membership in PF. One can believe anything, rightly or wrongly, but it is a matter of belief or opinion. Hopefully those expressing opinions are well-informed, but sometimes that does not appear to be so.

One is also free to disagree and to express disagreement.

It would be nice if everyone were skilled in the art of disputation and rhetoric. Alas, in the modern world, this seems a lost art. :frown:
 

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