The Eye of the Beholder: Perception of Order & Events

  • Thread starter Thread starter scott_alexsk
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Eye
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of order and events as perceived by individuals, exploring philosophical implications and connections to concepts in physics, particularly String Theory and quantum mechanics. It includes considerations of determinism and the existence of parallel universes.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Philosophical exploration

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that order and events exist solely because they are perceived that way.
  • Others argue that such a perspective may not be appropriate for a physics discussion, suggesting it belongs more in a philosophical context.
  • A participant mentions that the concept of perception relates to Kant's transcendental idealism and raises questions about the empirical basis of science.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of infinite parallel universes and whether individuals are bound to a predetermined path or have free will in their choices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the appropriateness of the topic for the physics section, with some asserting it is more philosophical in nature. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of perception on order and events.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion related to the definitions of order, events, and perception, as well as the philosophical interpretations of quantum mechanics and their relation to String Theory.

scott_alexsk
Messages
335
Reaction score
0
What if I said the only reason there is order and events is because we precieve it that way.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
And what if I say that if that is ALL that you can say, then it does not belong in the physics section of PF?

Zz.
 
scott_alexsk said:
What if I said the only reason there is order and events is because we precieve it that way.

I'd say you are wrong.
 
You are probably right about the posting area, though the reason I posted the thread here is because of the "Eye of the beholder" being a major part of String Theory. The reason I started this was to see if there were any explanations into the infinite parallel universes idea. Several people have said that there are an infinite number of universes with slight variances. Now if we are in one of them are we condemned to follow a certain path through life. Or is it possible that are choices are not predetermined.
 
scott_alexsk said:
You are probably right about the posting area, though the reason I posted the thread here is because of the "Eye of the beholder" being a major part of String Theory. The reason I started this was to see if there were any explanations into the infinite parallel universes idea. Several people have said that there are an infinite number of universes with slight variances. Now if we are in one of them are we condemned to follow a certain path through life. Or is it possible that are choices are not predetermined.

What you have said has more to do with ONE version of a slew of philosophical interpretation of QM. Not only does it not belong in String theory (even though you MAY have read it in a pop-sci string theory book), it doesn't belong in the Physics section. I'm moving this to the philosophy section... somewhere.

Zz.
 
scott_alexsk said:
What if I said the only reason there is order and events is because we precieve it that way.

This is a form of Kant's transcedental idealism. It has some power, indeed there is a problem with justifying the empirical basis of science, but I don't think that currently it is the first choice program, deserving to be held as the corrigible basis for science (that is provisionally). I've developed this subject in more detail http://forums.philosophyforums.com/thread/14368/9 .
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Similar threads

Undergrad The physics behind mixing coloured pigments (questions inside post)
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
Are Alternate Currencies Like Bitcoin Viable Without Government Backing?
  • · Replies 28 ·
Replies
28
Views
15K
Undergrad A bit confused about Schrödinger's cat
  • · Replies 97 ·
4
Replies
97
Views
8K
How Do Insect Muscles Enhance the Function of Compound Eyes?
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
Finding support to complete a UK charity registration application
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Medical With eyes closed or in a dream do we see video-like movements?
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K
High School Does light ever go from the eye to the image?
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
Undergrad How many sorts of time are there in physics?
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
How Does Flickering Light Influence Our Brain's Perception of Image Brightness?
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
6K
Explain Humor in "Haddocks Eyes" for Alice in Wonderland Fans
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
12K