Solve Equation: (Integral) e^2x*e^x(3sin2x+2cos2x)dx

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The discussion revolves around solving the integral of the function e^2x * e^x(3sin2x + 2cos2x)dx. Participants explore different methods for tackling this integral, including integration by parts and the use of complex exponentials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in solving the integral of e^2x * e^x(3sin2x + 2cos2x).
  • Another suggests using the exponential form for trigonometric functions and multiplying through to simplify the integral into a form involving e^{(a+ib)x}.
  • A different approach is proposed using integration by parts, specifically for the integral of e^x * sin(x), demonstrating a method that could be adapted to the original integral.
  • One participant inquires about potentially quicker methods for solving the integral.
  • A humorous reference is made to a so-called "abra-kadabra" formula, implying a shortcut that is not widely taught.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on a single method for solving the integral, as participants present different approaches and express curiosity about alternative techniques.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully resolve the integral, and there are various assumptions and techniques discussed without agreement on their effectiveness or applicability to the original problem.

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Students or individuals interested in integral calculus, particularly those looking for different methods to solve integrals involving exponential and trigonometric functions.

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i'm trying to solve an equation, but I'm stuck on this step:
(integral sign) e^2x*e^x(3sin2x+2cos2x)dx =?
 
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use the exponential form for the trig functions and multiply through. you'll get a few easy integrals of the form
[tex]\int e^{(a+ib)x}dx[/tex]
 
If you don't know about the complex exponential, here's a technique using integration by parts (I'll let you tailor it to your specific example):
Suppose you are to find an anti-derivative (i.e, indefinite integral) of the function [tex]f(x)=e^{x}\sin(x)[/tex], that is, you are to find J, where J is given as:
[tex]J=\int{e}^{x}\sin(x)dx(1)[/tex]
The right-hand side can now be rewritten as:
[tex]\int{e}^{x}\sin(x)dx=e^{x}\sin(x)-\int{e}^{x}\cos(x)dx=e^{x}\sin(x)-e^{x}\cos(x)-\int{e}^{x}\sin(x)dx=e^{x}\sin(x)-e^{x}\cos(x)-J(2)[/tex]
where I have used integration by parts twice, along with (1).
Thus, we have:
[tex]J=e^{x}\sin(x)-e^{x}\cos(x)-J\to{J}=\frac{e^{x}\sin(x)-e^{x}\cos(x)}{2}[/tex]
(I've not bothered with the constant of integration; this should also be included in the final expression).
 
ok, thanks! i'll try that~
 
come to think of it... is there a quicker way?
 
Sure; we've got the "abra-kadabra" formula, but it is only taught to 50 year old professor with proven gentle disposition because of the formula's potential for abuse.
 
haha... thanks! :)
 

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