Dial-up disconnects during storms

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the issue of frequent disconnections from dial-up internet during thunderstorms. Participants explore potential causes, including the effects of lightning and water on phone lines, as well as the quality of modems. The conversation includes personal experiences and suggestions for troubleshooting.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that lightning and wet cables can introduce static, degrading the signal and causing disconnections, particularly affecting the sensitive signals sent to ISPs.
  • Others share personal experiences of significant damage from lightning strikes, indicating that even with surge protectors, electrical issues can arise during storms.
  • There is mention of the possibility that the modem itself may be of low quality, which could contribute to disconnections during storms.
  • One participant notes that water entering the main phone line box can also cause issues, suggesting that both external weather conditions and internal wiring problems may be at play.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of checking for water ingress in phone connections and recommend contacting the phone company if disconnections occur consistently during rain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the causes of disconnections during storms, including the effects of lightning, water in the lines, and modem quality. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on a single cause.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors that could contribute to the problem, including the quality of modems, the condition of phone lines, and the impact of external weather conditions. There are indications of unresolved issues related to the reliability of phone lines during storms.

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For some reason I keep getting disconnected whenever a storm is nearby. Its lightning outside pretty bad, but the power is not affected, instead the effect is limited to the phone line only. Is the lightning short-circuiting the phone line? Or is it something local?

I'm having a difficult time posting this as I speak. I keep getting disconnected, cannot stay online for more than a minute.

edit: Moderators, please delete one of these, I got disconnected when posting the original, and didn't think it posted. Ah darnit, thunderstorm power outage...
 
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motai said:
For some reason I keep getting disconnected whenever a storm is nearby. Its lightning outside pretty bad, but the power is not affected, instead the effect is limited to the phone line only. Is the lightning short-circuiting the phone line? Or is it something local?

I'm having a difficult time posting this as I speak. I keep getting disconnected, cannot stay online for more than a minute.
Lightning and wet cable can both cause static which will degrade the signal enough for you to lose your internet connection. The noise may not affect talking over the line, but the signals sent for your connection to your ISP are more sensitive.

Be careful, my house was hit by lightning last month and caused over $10,000 in lost appliances and electrical wiring, even though I had expensive surge protectors. :frown:
 
Evo said:
Lightning and wet cable can both cause static which will degrade the signal enough for you to lose your internet connection. The noise may not affect talking over the line, but the signals sent for your connection to your ISP are more sensitive.

Be careful, my house was hit by lightning last month and caused over $10,000 in lost appliances and electrical wiring, even though I had expensive surge protectors. :frown:

Thanks Evo :smile:. There was only some light rain beforehand, and all the lightning in the area was a mile or so away, possibly farther. The lightning storm only passed by this area in a timeframe of 5 minutes or so, the rest being rain. I was just surprised by the range that the storm had over killing the internet connection.

I'll have to check the cables sometime, occasionally our main phone line box gets water inside and screws things up a little, especially since all the phone jacks in the house connect to that one point.

During the real bad storms though, the computer gets shut down.
 
motai said:
For some reason I keep getting disconnected whenever a storm is nearby. Its lightning outside pretty bad, but the power is not affected, instead the effect is limited to the phone line only. Is the lightning short-circuiting the phone line? Or is it something local?

I'm having a difficult time posting this as I speak. I keep getting disconnected, cannot stay online for more than a minute.

edit: Moderators, please delete one of these, I got disconnected when posting the original, and didn't think it posted. Ah darnit, thunderstorm power outage...


When you talk on the phone during a storm do you hear a lot of noise? Modems are analogue so any noise would affect the signal as oppose to a digital connection which can take a bit more. In my experience though is what causes the modem to disconnect is usually due to a crappy modem. You wouldn't believe the number of low quality modems are in the market, expecially ones that are built into the computer.
 
FulhamFan3 said:
When you talk on the phone during a storm do you hear a lot of noise? Modems are analogue so any noise would affect the signal as oppose to a digital connection which can take a bit more. In my experience though is what causes the modem to disconnect is usually due to a crappy modem. You wouldn't believe the number of low quality modems are in the market, expecially ones that are built into the computer.
I had that problem on an older computer I had with frequent disconnections. Sure enough, replacing the modem card ended all my problems with disconnections.

Water getting into the phone lines during a storm is another source of added static and loss of reliability, as has been mentioned already. If it happens every time it rains, call the phone company and inform them of this problem. They may have a line that needs replacing (whether or not they can find it is another issue). However, if you also know you have water getting into your own phone connections, you should solve that problem first, and soon!
 

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