Freefall Problem: Solving for the Height of a Cliff

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving freefall, specifically determining the height of a cliff from which a rock is dropped. The problem states that the rock falls one-third of its total distance to the ground in the last second of its fall.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to utilize kinematic equations to solve for the height but expresses confusion about the time it takes for the rock to fall the first two-thirds of the distance. Other participants suggest using equations to set up relationships between the total distance and the distance fallen in specific time intervals.

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Some participants have provided guidance by suggesting equations and relationships that can be used to approach the problem. The original poster indicates a shift in understanding after receiving help, though no explicit consensus or resolution has been reached.

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The original poster mentions feeling frustrated and having difficulty visualizing the problem, indicating a potential lack of clarity in the setup or assumptions regarding the motion of the rock.

antimatter1422
hi. I've been trying to do this problem for about 5 hrs...and i still can't get it! :bugeye: If anyone of you could please point me in the right direction, i'd really appreciate it.

The Problem is: A rock dropped from a cliff falls one-third of its total distance to the ground in the last second of its fall. How high is the cliff?
Answer Given = 145.7 m

I've tried drawing a diagram, substituting, but I am still missing some concept! i can't get the answer given.

I know the 4 kinematic equations commonly used in class are
1. X = Xo + Vavg*t
2. X = Xo + Vo*t + (1/2)*a*t^2
3. V^2 = Vo^2 + 2*a*deltaX
4. V = Vo + a*t

i know, that since its falling off a cliff, the acceleration = g. and i have a picture but i don't know how to draw it on the computer. I've been trying to find the final velocity of the rock as it travels 2/3 down the cliff, because that final velocity would be the initial velocity of the rock as it falls the last 1/3 in a time of t= 1 second. But i can't figure out the time it takes the rock to travel the first 2/3 down the cliff. so in conclusion, i don't know what I am doing. several pages of random tries and still nothing... thanks in advance.

- frustrated high school student :confused:
 
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Using your eqn 2),
dist fallen in t secs is x
dist fallen in (t-1) secs is (2/3)x
 
When you substitute Xo = Vo = 0 and a = g, then you have 2 Eq'ns in 2 unknowns (X and t):

X = (1/2)*a*t^2
2X/3 = (1/2)*a*(t-1)^2
 
Relief!

thank you very much for your help Fermat and EnumaElish. I c how to work the problem now. till we meet again, bye. :smile:
 

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