Understanding Local Extrema with Two Variables and Partial Derivatives

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The discussion revolves around finding and classifying local extrema for a function of two variables, specifically using partial derivatives. The function in question is f(x,y) = -x^2 - y^2 - 10xy + 4y - 4x + 2.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the process of finding stationary points by setting the gradient to zero, leading to a system of equations. There are attempts to solve these equations, with some participants expressing confusion about the infinite solutions for x and y.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to set up the system of equations derived from the partial derivatives. There is acknowledgment of the need to check whether the stationary points are indeed extrema, with one participant noting that a found stationary point is not an extremum.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the classification of points and the implications of having multiple solutions for the system of equations. There is a mention of the text not providing sufficient information on handling two-variable functions at this stage.

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we're doing partial derivatives, and i thought i understood them until:

[tex]f(x,y)=-x^2-y^2-10xy+4y-4x+2[/tex]

we are meant to find and classify all local extrema. i got:

[tex]f_x=-2x-10y-4[/tex] and [tex]f_y=-2y-10x+4[/tex]

i've never had two variables at this stage, and i can't solve for any of the points. the text doesn't seem to say anything about this...
 
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You solve [tex]\nabla f = \vec0[/tex] (gradient of f) which basically gives you a system of 2 equations here. The solutions are the 'stationary points' which may be extrema, but you have to check that (e.g. with a test)

So you solve:

[tex]\left\{ \begin{gathered}<br /> \frac{{\delta f}}<br /> {{\delta x}} = 0 \hfill \\<br /> \frac{{\delta f}}<br /> {{\delta y}} = 0 \hfill \\ <br /> \end{gathered} \right.[/tex]
 
mm, i get: [tex]10y=-2x-4[/tex] and [tex]10x=-2y+4[/tex] for each of which there are infinite solutions for x and y. i thought that if i combined the equations (no reason) it might do it, but i still got [tex]y=x-1[/tex]
 
Yes, you have to combine them in a system.

[tex]\left\{ \begin{gathered}<br /> 2x + 10y + 4 = 0 \hfill \\<br /> 10x + 2y - 4 = 0 \hfill \\ <br /> \end{gathered} \right.[/tex]

Solving it should give [itex]\left( {\frac{1}<br /> {2}, - \frac{1}<br /> {2}} \right)[/itex]

However, although it's a stationary point, it's not an extremum.
 
aha! thanks, i get it now
 

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