Find the velocity of the rain with respect to the car and the Earth

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The problem involves analyzing the relative motion of rain with respect to a car and the Earth. The car is moving east at 50.0 km/h, while the rain falls vertically, creating an angle of 75.0° with the vertical on the car's windows.

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  • Participants discuss different frames of reference, including those of the rain, car, and Earth. There are mentions of using Galilean Transformations and trigonometry to analyze the problem. Some participants express uncertainty about identifying the horizontal and vertical components of the velocity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometry and the concept of relative motion, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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Participants express confusion about the definitions of horizontal and vertical components in the context of the problem, indicating a need for clarification on the setup and assumptions involved.

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I would like to confirm the answer to this question.

A car travels due east with a speed of 50.0 km/h. Raindrops are falling at a constant speed vertically with respect to the Earth. The traces of the rain on the side windows of the car make an angle of 75.0° with the vertical. Find the velocity of the rain with respect to the car and the Earth.

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You mean relative motion :-p

You have 3 frames of reference: one attached to the rain, another one to the car and the last one to the Earth. Using Galilean Transformations and basic trigonometry you should be able to solve it...
 
GDogg said:
You mean relative motion :-p

You have 3 frames of reference: one attached to the rain, another one to the car and the last one to the Earth. Using Galilean Transformations and basic trigonometry you should be able to solve it...

You don't even need any Transformations, just use trigonometry. You can construct a right angled triangle.

Regards,

Nenad
 
I'd solve this in the car's frame of reference. The vertical component of the raindrop velocity is the same for the car and earth. So you just have to figure out the horizontal component. It's not that hard.
 
unsure still. horizontal component or vertical

I tried. But which is which? Is the horizontal component the speed relative to the car or the what?
pls help! I really suck at this!
 
tubworld said:
I tried. But which is which? Is the horizontal component the speed relative to the car or the what?
pls help! I really suck at this!
In the frame of reference of the earth, the velocity vector for the rain is directed vertically downward. If you are in the frame of reference of the car, the rain appears also to be moving horizontally rearward at 50 km/hr. So it appears to have its vertical velocity plus a horizontal velocity of 50 km/hr in the rearward direction. You have to find the magnitude of the vertical vector such that, when added to the rearward horizontal vector, results in a vector that has a direction that is 75 degrees to the vertical (15 degrees below the horizontal).

AM
 

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