Also O.D.E stuck on integration step

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The problem involves solving the ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by y' (cosh^2)x - (sin^2)y = 0, with the initial condition y(0)=pi/2. Participants are discussing the integration step required to solve this equation.

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  • The original poster attempts to separate variables by rewriting the equation as dy/((sin^2)y)=dx/(cosh^2)x. They express uncertainty about integrating the right side. Other participants suggest using the definition of hyperbolic functions and discuss the relationships between hyperbolic and circular functions.

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Participants are actively exploring different approaches to the integration step. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definitions of hyperbolic functions and their derivatives. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are navigating through the integration of hyperbolic functions and their relationships to other functions, with some expressing confusion about identities and integration results.

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In the problem
y` (cosh^2)x - (sin^2)y = 0, y(0)=pi/2
i'm also stuck on the integration step...
my first step is
dy/((sin^2)y)=dx/(cosh^2)x
however, i don't how to integrate the right side~
 
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You could try using the definition:

[tex]\cosh \left( x \right) \equiv \frac{{e^x + e^{ - x} }}{2}[/tex]
 
ok, i'll try that~
thanks!
 
Formula for hyperbolic functions closely mirror those for circular functions
tan'(x)=(sec(x))^2
tanh'(x)=(sech(x))^2
Osbornes Rule is a way to do this in general
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/OsbornesRule.html
 
wow~ i thought that only cos and sin have that kinda identity...
thanks! :)
 
hmm...
if i use [tex]\cosh \left( x \right) \equiv \frac{{e^x + e^{ - x} }}{2}[/tex] to integrate cosh^2x=(e^2x + e^(-2x) +1)/2,
then [integrated(cosh)dx]=[(1/4)e^2x+(1/4)e^(-2x) + x/2]
but does that equal tanhx?
 
I'm afraid not. It's the integral of sech²x that is equal to tanhx.

let y = tanhx
then
y = sinhx/coshx
y' = {coshx.(sinhx)' - sinhx.(coshx)'} / cosh²x
y' = {cosh²x - sinh²x} / cosh²x
y' = 1 / cosh²x
y' = sech²x
 
ok, thanks!
 

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