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The discussion revolves around simplifying a polynomial equation and comparing coefficients to solve for unknowns. The focus is on algebraic manipulation and understanding the distribution of terms within the context of polynomial identities.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in simplifying the polynomial equation and seeks guidance on further simplifications.
  • Another participant discusses the law of distribution and its application to the problem, affirming that the manipulation of expressions is valid as long as the variables are consistent.
  • A third participant confirms that the initial steps taken are correct and provides a rearranged form of the equation, emphasizing the importance of cancellation and simplification.
  • A later reply notes that for the equality to hold for all values of x, the coefficients of corresponding terms must be equal, suggesting that this can help determine the value of A.

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Participants generally agree on the validity of the algebraic manipulations being discussed, but there is no consensus on the specific steps for simplification or the values of the coefficients.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the specific values of A, B, C, and D, as well as the implications of the simplifications on the overall equation.

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This discussion may be useful for students struggling with polynomial equations, particularly in understanding coefficient comparison and algebraic simplification techniques.

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Simple for you guys i guess, But tough for me - Guess I am just thick!

[itex]x^4 +Ax^3 + 5x^2 + x + 3 = (x^2 +4)(X^2 -x +B) +Cx +D[/itex]

I get:

[itex]x^4 +Ax^3 + 5x^2 + x + 3 = X^4 -x^3 - 4x^2 + Bx^2 - 4x + 4B + Cx + D[/itex]

Now, I think i need to simplify this more because i can't compare co-efficients can i?

Can someone run me through the further simplifications?

Maybe [itex]Bx^2 + 4x^2[/itex] into [itex](4+B)X^2[/itex] ? Is this wise and possible? What else?

Need to learn simplification better, Finding my basic maths is poor so Alevel is tough!
 
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The law of distribution of multiplication over addition: a*(b + c) = a*b + a*c. The equality sign means that any expression of the form of the right hand side may be replaced by the expression on the left hand side (and vice versa) and still maintain the truth of the original expression. As long as X=x in your expression, what you're doing is fine. :smile:
 
You're on the right path, my friend!

[tex]x^4 +Ax^3 + 5x^2 + x + 3 = (x^2 +4)(x^2 -x +B) +Cx +D[/tex]
<=>
[tex]x^4 +Ax^3 + 5x^2 + x + 3 = x^4 - x^3 + Bx^2 + 4x^2 - 4x + 4B +Cx +D[/tex]
<=(cancellation & simplification)=>
[tex]Ax^3 + 5x^2 + x + 3 = - x^3 + (B+4)x^2 + (C-4)x + 4B + D[/tex]
 
Now recall that if that is true for all x, then the corresponding coefficients must be equal. You can just look at that and see what A must be!
 

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