Charge inside a metallic sphere

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of electric charge within a metallic spherical shell, particularly focusing on the charge distribution near the inner surface and the implications for equipotentiality. Participants explore theoretical aspects of electrostatics, including the effects of non-uniform charge distribution and the implications for electric fields inside and outside the conductor.

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  • One participant suggests that the charge distribution near a test charge inside a metallic shell will be dense, while outside it will be uniform, questioning the equipotential nature of the inner boundary.
  • Another participant argues that the electric field produced by a test charge will be stronger in areas closer to the charge, leading to a non-uniform distribution of surface charge on the inner surface of the conductor.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that the non-uniform distribution of charge is not solely due to the inner surface but also involves the outer surface, referencing a specific text for further explanation.
  • One participant provides a mathematical proof to support the claim that the surface of a conductor is at equipotential, stating that the potential inside the conductor is zero.
  • Another participant mentions that this problem is standard in advanced electromagnetism and can be approached using multipole expansions or image charges, though noting the complexity involved.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of charge distribution and equipotentiality within the metallic sphere, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

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Some discussions reference specific texts and examples, suggesting that the problem may involve complex mathematical considerations and assumptions about charge behavior that are not fully resolved in the conversation.

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Suppose we have charge inside a metallic spherical shell ,not in the middle,but near the boundary of the surface.The charge distribution near the charge will be dense but outside it will be uniform.
All this is clear to me that outside the metallic sphere will be equipotential,but what about the internal boundary??
Doesn't it have to satisfy the equipotentialness for the innermost boundary.??
 
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Suppose the "test charge" is located very near a certain area of the inner surface. Then the field produced by the test charge is stronger on that area of the conductor then it is on an area that is farther away from the test charge. Hence, the surface charge must concentrate more heavily on that part of the inner surface if it wants to cancel the field of the test charge. That's why the charges don't spread uniformly on the surface as soon as there is no symetry in the cavity and test charge(s).

In my opinion, the strange behavior is not from the charges on the inner surface, but from those on the outer surface. Anyway, it is not a trivial subject. Refer to Griffith's Electrodynamics 3rd edition pp.99 Exemple 2.6 and pp.118 for the complete explanation.


As for your actual question, Yes, that is the point of the non-uniform distribution. Here's a proof that the surface of a conductor is at equipotential with the rest of the conductor. Simple: chose your reference point in the calculation of the potential to be inside the conductor, and chose the path of integration to be inside the conductor as well. The only place where the field is non-zero is at the surface of the conductor itself, so your integral becomes

[tex]V(\vec{r}) = -\int_{\vec{\mathcal{O}}}^{\vec{r}}\vec{E}\cdot\ d\vec{r} = \lim_{max{||\vec{\Delta r}_i||}\rightarrow 0} \sum_{i=1}^n \vec{E}(\vec{r_i})\cdot \vec{\Delta r}_i = 0+0+...+\vec{E}(\vec{r_n})\cdot \vec{0} = 0+0+...+0=0[/tex]

Hence the potential at the surface is 0, like at every point inside the conductor.
 
Thanks Quasar
It's clear to me.
 
This is a standard problem in advanced E&M. If you work with multipole expansions, the solution for the potential will emerge nicely in each of the three regions. As is also discussed in numerous texts, the problem can be solved wih images, but, unfortunately an infinite number is required.

Regards,
Reilly Atkinson
 

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