Can an infinite subset be dense in a finite complement topology?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of infinite subsets within the context of the finite complement topology on an infinite set X. The original poster seeks to demonstrate that any infinite subset A of X is dense in X, specifically questioning the implications of every point in X being a limit point of A.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between limit points and density, with some suggesting that if every point of X is a limit point of A, then A must be dense in X. Others question the definitions and implications of closed sets in this context.

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The discussion is active, with participants engaging in clarifying definitions and exploring the logical connections between limit points and density. There is recognition of a simpler approach mentioned by one participant, though no explicit consensus is reached on the overall argument.

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Participants are working under the definitions of dense subsets and limit points, with some emphasis on the nature of closed sets in the finite complement topology. The implications of these definitions are central to the discussion.

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My problem is:

Consider an infinite set [itex]X[/itex] with the finite complement topology. I want to show that any infinite subset [itex]A[/itex] of [itex]X[/itex] is dense in [itex]X[/itex].

Now, I can show that every point of [itex]X[/itex] is a limit point of [itex]A[/itex].

Can this help me in any way to show that [itex]A[/itex] is dense in [itex]X[/itex]. Or could someone provide me with an alternative method.

By the way, my understanding of dense is that a subset of a set is dense if its closure coincides with the set.
 
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Let me rephrase your question:

If every point of X is a limit point of A, then is A dense in X?
 
Yes, that is my question.
 
So what do the definitions say?
 
Wait a sec, if every point of X is a limit point of A, then A is dense in X!
 
SO, A is any infinite subset and you want to find the smallest closed set containing A. Since there are three kinds of closed set:

the empty set

a set containing a finite number of points

all of X


isn't the answer obvious? I mean, whichof those can contain A, given A is infinite?
 
isn't the answer obvious? I mean, whichof those can contain A, given A is infinite?

is it all of X?
 
well, can you name a finite (or empty set) that contains an infinite subset?
 
nope, I can't.

So am I correct in thinking that by proving that every point of [itex]X[/itex] is the limit point of [itex]A[/itex], then [itex]A[/itex] is dense?
 
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Wait a sec, if every point of X is a limit point of A, then A is dense in X!

That is correct -- the point of my first post was to eliminate the unnecessary stuff, hoping you could see this when that's all that's left. :smile:

However, the approach matt has mentioned is a much easier way to do this problem... and is a fairly important theme to understand in general.
 
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I agree, Matt's method was MUCH easier.
 
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Once again- look at the DEFINITION of "dense"!
 

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