How Is the Formula for Kinetic Energy Derived?

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the formula for kinetic energy, specifically K = 0.5mv^2. Participants are exploring the definition and implications of this formula within the context of physics.

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Can someone please explain the derivation of the common formula for average kinetic energy: K = 0.5mv^2?
 
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Derivation of KE?

a = v^2 - v0^2 / 2d

ΣWork = ΣF * d = mad = 0.5m(v^2 - v0^2) = ke
 
First, K = 0.5mv^2 is not "average" kinetic energy- it is kinetic energy- in fact it is the definition of kinetic energy- there is no "derivation". At some time, back at the beginning of "physics" someone notice that, in many dynamics problems that quantity was conserved- so they gave it a name!
 
First, K = 0.5mv^2 is not "average" kinetic energy- it is kinetic energy- in fact it is the definition of kinetic energy- there is no "derivation". At some time, back at the beginning of "physics" someone notice that, in many dynamics problems that quantity was conserved- so they gave it a name!

Quantities, mv^2, 35mv^2, are also conserved!
 
Originally posted by PrudensOptimus


ΣWork = ΣF * d = mad = 0.5m(v^2 - v0^2) = ke

So ummmm ... This is relative kinetic energy not average kinetic energy?

That is, relative to the kinetic energy of the object when v0 = 0

Interesting derivation. Thanks.
 
energy is the ability to do work.

work is force times distance.

kinetic energy is that energy a body has due to its motion.

so let's see:

[tex] W=\int_A^B \mathbf{F}\cdot d\mathbf{s}[/tex]

but by Newton
[tex] \mathbf{F}=m\mathbf{a}[/tex]
so
[tex] W=\int_A^Bm\mathbf{a}\cdot d\mathbf{s} = m\int_{t_{A}}^{t_{B}}\mathbf{a}\cdot\mathbf{v}dt\\<br /> = \frac{m}{2}\int_{t_{A}}^{t_{B}}\frac{d(v^2)}{dt}\! dt = \frac{1}{2}mv_B^2 - \frac{1}{2}mv_A^2[/tex]

so you see that the work done is equal to the change in kinetic energy between the two points, and this is a derivation of the formula for that kinetic energy.
 
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