Understanding Thermodynamics: Solving for Resistance and Temperature

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The discussion revolves around a thermodynamics problem involving a platinum resistance thermometer and its relationship between resistance and temperature. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the wording of the problem and the application of the resistance formula.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between resistance and temperature, questioning the meaning of the constants in the formula. Some inquire about specific temperature points, such as the ice point and steam point, while others suggest the need for additional information to solve part (b) of the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the setup of equations, but there is no explicit consensus on how to proceed with the calculations.

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There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the assignment of values to the variables in the resistance formula, and some participants express uncertainty about the necessary information to solve the second part of the problem.

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another thermodynamics problem

For this one its a combination of the wording and the whole resistance that i don't get.

In the interval between the freezing point of water and 700 degrees C, a platinum resistance thermometer is used for interpolating the temperatures on the international scale the Celsius temperature Tc is given by a formula for resistance R with temperature
R = R0(1 + ATc +BTc^2) where A and B are constants determined by measurements at the ice point, the steam point of water, and the melting point of zinc (419.414 degrees C). (a) If R equals 10.000 ohms at the ice point, 13.946 ohms at the steam point, and 24.174 at the melting point of zinc, find R0, A, and B; (b) When immersed in a solution the length is 25.4 cm. What is the temperature of the solution.

now wtf?
 
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Resistance is an electrical property of a device.
For metals, resistance increases (almost linearly)
Almost proportional to Temperature in Kelvin.
So expect B to be small.

What is Tc of the ice point? What, then, is Ro?
Do you know what temperature the "steam point" is?
 
ice87 said:
For this one its a combination of the wording and the whole resistance that i don't get.

In the interval between the freezing point of water and 700 degrees C, a platinum resistance thermometer is used for interpolating the temperatures on the international scale the Celsius temperature Tc is given by a formula for resistance R with temperature
R = R0(1 + ATc +BTc^2) where A and B are constants determined by measurements at the ice point, the steam point of water, and the melting point of zinc (419.414 degrees C). (a) If R equals 10.000 ohms at the ice point, 13.946 ohms at the steam point, and 24.174 at the melting point of zinc, find R0, A, and B; (b) When immersed in a solution the length is 25.4 cm. What is the temperature of the solution.

now wtf?
I think you need more information in order to answer b).

AM
 
You see what I don't get is where all the numbers go, and what all the letters in the equation represent. I'm guessing for part A i need to setup 3 equations with 3 variables and R equalling 10.000, 13.946, and 24.174 ohms? and maybe with Tc equalling 0, 100, and 419.414 degrees C respectively?
 

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