Solving F(x,v) for x: Deriving x as a Function of Time

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The discussion revolves around deriving the position x as a function of time from a given force function F(x,v) = kvx, where k is a positive constant and the initial velocity is v-nought at x = 0, t = 0. Participants explore the implications of this function and its realism in a physical context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss deriving velocity as a function of position and subsequently position as a function of time. There are questions about the validity of the derived expressions and the nature of the force function. Some participants express uncertainty about the implications of the force being defined in this manner.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the mathematical relationships involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the force and its implications, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the derived expressions or their physical relevance.

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There are concerns about the function being unrealistic and the derived expressions leading to undefined values at certain points in time. Participants are also questioning the constraints of the problem and the assumptions made regarding the force function.

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I was given the following problem for a homework assignment:

Given F(x,v) = kvx where k is positive and the velocity is v-nought at x = 0, t = 0, what is x as a function of time?

First I derived v as a function of position:

v = v-nought + kx^2/2m

Then, I derived x as a function of time:

x = Sqrt[2mv-nought/k]tan(t*Sqrt[kv-nought/2m])

My problem with this solution is that x is then undefined for various points in time, plus the fact that it jumps from inifnity to negative infinity when it is undefined.

Now, if this is correct, it can be used as proof that the function as given cannot conform to anything in reality. However, it just may be plain out wrong. If it is wrong, I was wondering if someone might supply me with the correct answer as well as how to go about getting it.

Thank you very much for your time.
 
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F(x,v) doesn't seem to tell us anything useful. It's just a random function, as far as I can see. Therefore, v is unconstrained, and x could be anything as a function of time.

Edit to add:

Ah...hang on. Is F a force?
 
If F = kvx is the force on the particle, then:

ma = kvx,

which means

[tex]m \frac{d^2 x}{dt^2} = kx \frac{dx}{dt}[/tex]

Can you solve that differential equation?
 
Yes, it is a force, and I wrote kvx = ma = mv(dv/dx).

So, kx/m dx = dv, and

kx^2/2m = v - v-nought.

Therefore, v = v-nought + kx^2/2m = dx/dt.

I then separated variables again and solved for x as a function of time, which resulted in my result written up in my first post, aloing with the problems it carries.
 
Ah, yes. I forgot that a = v(dv/dx).

I haven't checked your final answer, but it's probably correct. Your conclusion that the force is unrealistic seems sensible to me.
 
Thank you.
 

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