Vector Problem: Find Expression for C in Terms of A,B,d

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The discussion revolves around a vector problem involving two vectors A and B, and a scalar d. The goal is to find an expression for an unknown vector C in terms of A, B, d, and the magnitude of vector A, given the equations A·C = d and A × C = B.

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  • Participants discuss using component representations of vectors to set up a system of equations based on the given vector equations. Some express confusion over obtaining a magnitude rather than a vector expression for C.

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Several participants have shared their approaches, including attempts to derive components of vector C from the equations. There is acknowledgment of challenges due to the singular nature of the coefficient matrix in the system of equations. Some participants have provided partial expressions for C, while others have noted the abstract nature of the problem as a source of confusion.

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Participants mention that the problem constraints require the final expression for C to include A, B, d, and the magnitude of A, which adds to the complexity of their attempts.

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Vector question-please help

hello.please help me with this vector problem..


Given two vectors A and B and a scalar 'd', it is known that:
A.C=d and A X C = B
where C is a vector of unknown direction and magnitude.Find an expression for C in terms of A,B,d and the magnitude of vector A.

I tried using langranges identity but am getting a value of c's magnitude and not C as a vector..Like I am getting sumthing like
c^2=(B^2+d^2)/B^2 which i know is kinda wrong as the answer iv got is a magnitude and not a vector..
What do i do?Please help! o:)
 
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I'd go with component representations of each vector ([itex]\vec{A}=A_x\hat{i}+A_y\hat{j}+A_z\hat{k}[/itex], etc.) Now if you write out [itex]\vec{A}\times\vec{C}=\vec{B}[/itex] you'll get a 3x3 system of equations for the components of [itex]\vec{C}[/itex]. It will look tempting to solve the system, but you won't be able to (the coefficient matrix is singular). But you could use 2 of those equations, and for the third equation use [itex]\vec{A}\cdot\vec{C}=d[/itex]. Then you should be able to solve for the components of [itex]\vec{C}[/itex]. Once you have those, you're done.
 
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I'd go with component representations of each vector ([itex]\vec{A}=A_x\hat{i}+A_y\hat{j}+A_z\hat{k}[/itex], etc.) Now if you write out [itex]\vec{A}\times\vec{C}=\vec{B}[/itex] you'll get a 3x3 system of equations for the components of [itex]\vec{C}[/itex]. It will look tempting to solve the system, but you won't be able to (the coefficient matrix is singular). But you could use 2 of those equations, and for the third equation use [itex]\vec{A}\cdot\vec{C}=d[/itex]. Then you should be able to solve for the components of [itex]\vec{C}[/itex]. Once you have those, you're done.


hi..i tried doing the question and have got an unusual answer..shown on the included attachment..The question said that the answer shud be in terms of A,B,d and magnitude of A.However mine isn't coming as shown..Plz help!Thanks!
 

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I think you're going to have to flex your algebra muscles a little more. I really don't feel like solving the whole thing :redface: , but for [itex]C_x[/itex] I get:

[tex]C_x=\frac{da_x-a_yb_z+a_zb_y}{a_x^2+a_y^2+a_z^2}[/tex]
[tex]C_x=\frac{da_x-(\vec{A}\times\vec{B})_x}{|\vec{A}|^2}[/tex].

If the other components go by that pattern, and if I haven't made any dumb mistakes, then it should follow that:

[tex]\vec{C}=\frac{d\vec{A}-\vec{A}\times\vec{B}}{|\vec{A}|^2}[/tex].

Try to work it out, OK?
 
A.C=D
AxC=B
So we have
[tex](AXC)XA=|A|^2 C-(C.A)A=BXA[/tex]

So
[tex]C=\frac{BXA+dA}{|A|^2}[/tex]
 
heey..i tried working it now and got it...u knw what..the only thing was that everything seemed so abstract that it was confusing me like nething..i mean unknown components etc..
nehow..thanks again..
i finally got it!
 

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