What Letter Is This? A Stupid Question About Scripted Letters

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying a specific letter encountered in a book, with participants debating whether it is a scripted R, n, pi, or another symbol. The context includes references to statistical thermodynamics and various interpretations of the letter's appearance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the letter's identity, suggesting it resembles a lowercase n.
  • Another participant proposes that the letter could be a script pi.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the letter might be an n based on its context in a book about statistical thermodynamics.
  • Some participants humorously speculate about the letter being related to a fictional "Penguin Constant" or a hieroglyph from Roswell.
  • Several participants agree that it looks like either an n or an r, with one noting that it resembles a specific font used in mathematical typesetting.
  • One participant claims to have identified the letter as the Fraktur N, providing a TeX representation as evidence.
  • Another participant confirms that the Fraktur N looks very close to the letter in question.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions about the letter's identity, with no clear consensus reached. Multiple competing views remain regarding whether it is an n, r, pi, or another symbol.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes speculative claims and humorous remarks, which may not contribute to a definitive identification of the letter. Some assumptions about the context and appearance of the letter remain unresolved.

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This question's going to sound really stupid, but here goes: what letter is this supposed to be? I just came across it in a book of mine, but for the life of me, I can't tell whether it's a scripted R, n, or even pi. If I had to guess, I'd say that it's an n, simply because it looks somewhat like a lowercase n. However, if it is a scripted lowercase letter, then why is it the size of the uppercase letters? It's really bothering me, because when I'm reading, I'm not sure what to call it.
 
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I can't tell.
 
If you could show it in context we might be able to tell what it is.
 
It looks like a script pi to me...
 
Its sum fansy ritin', aint it?
 
I vote pi.
 
Ok, the mystery letter is in Terrell Hill's "An Introduction to Statistical Thermodynamics," and refers to the number of systems in an "ensemble" of systems. (That's another reason why I would lean towards n.)
 
Thats the Penguin Constant.

Since penguins are lazy, it is simply "1", no units.
 
You know, Pengwuino, our user names are very closely related. Look up the word "Manchot" in a French-English dictionary
 
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haha, the Manchot constant :D

Damn, google even has a translator... why don't we all just run our lives off google.
 
  • #11
Definitely an n.
 
  • #12
It's a hieroglyph from the wreckage at Roswell.
 
  • #13
Are you basing that on its looks or on the context?
 
  • #14
Manchot said:
Are you basing that on its looks or on the context?
No, that's the information that was just beamed into my head from the mothership.
 
  • #15
it's either an n or an r. if it's alphanumeric, of course
 
  • #16
looks like a pi to me.
 
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I think I saw that symbol chiseled in a piece of granite in the New Hampshire woods by a 10th century group of Irish monks who crossed the Atlantic in a skin boat.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
I think I saw that symbol chiseled in a piece of granite in the New Hampshire woods by a 10th century group of Irish monks who crossed the Atlantic in a skin boat.
Ah.. we've discov... WAIT A MINUTE! There were no monks in new hampshire in the 10th century. You're making this UP!
 
  • #20
Smurf said:
You're making this UP!
It's somewhat embellished, yes, but it is basically true: there were monks in Ireland at the time, and there was granite in new Hampshire.
 
  • #21
I think I've figured it out. It's the Fraktur N, which as it turns out, is implemented in TeX. See for yourself:

[tex]\mathfrak{N}[/tex]
 
  • #22
I KNEW IT! it wasn't [tex]\pi[/tex]
 
  • #23
Manchot said:
I think I've figured it out. It's the Fraktur N, which as it turns out, is implemented in TeX. See for yourself:

[tex]\mathfrak{N}[/tex]
That looks very close, yes.
 
  • #24
Elementary, my dear Watson! :biggrin:
 

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