Solving Exploding Spring: Find Car Speeds

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The problem involves a massless spring placed between two carts with different masses, which are compressed together and then released. The objective is to determine the speeds of the carts after they are released from the spring's compression, utilizing principles from mechanics.

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of momentum and conservation of energy principles. Initial conditions, such as the carts starting from rest, are noted. Questions about the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy stored in the spring are raised.

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Participants have engaged in a productive dialogue, exploring the necessary equations and relationships between the various forms of energy and momentum. Some have provided hints and guidance, leading to a clearer understanding of the problem's requirements.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the initial conditions and the energy transformations involved, with participants reflecting on the implications of starting from rest and the energy stored in the spring.

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A massless spring of spring constant 20 N/m is placed between two carts. Cart 1 has a mass M1 = 5 kg and Cart 2 has a mass M2 = 2 kg. The carts are pushed toward one another until the spring is compressed a distance 1.7 m. The carts are then released and the spring pushes them apart. After the carts are free of the spring, what are their speeds?

a) velocity of car 1 =?
b) velocity of car 2 =?

I know that for this problem, I got to use conservation of momentum and conservation of energy, but I don't even know how to even start off this problem. Major help needed!
 
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You need to apply two equations:
1. Conservation of energy.
2. Conservation of momentum.
 
Just give it a try. Here are some hints.

What's the initial momentum of the system? (Hint: the masses start from rest.) What's the final momentum (m1v1 + m2v2)?

What's the initial KE of the masses? (see previous hint).

How much energy is stored in the compressed spring?

What's the final KE of the masses?
 
Baby steps, right?

Ok. Initial momentum equals final momentum.
and I realized objects start from rest, so initial velocity is zero
thus,
initial momentum =0
so 0=(m1v1+m2v2)
or -m1v1=m2v2

Ok, that part wasnt so bad.

Initial KE=0
Final KE= .5m1v1^2+.5m2v2^2

Spring potential energy=.5kx^2

ah, so yea, I guess then .5m1v1^2+.5m2v2^2=.5kx^2
 
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So for the energy part, is it going to be like the KE of both carts equal the potential energy of the spring?

so like this:
.5*m1v1^2+.5m2v2^2=.5kx^2
Yep. You're half-way home.
 
Awesome, I figured it out...Lol, it took me like 1 hr of frustration, then like 5 mins of guidance here, and I got it in like 10 mins. :-)
 
Sweet. :smile:
 

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