Can Magnetism Alter Quantum Phase in Superconductors?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of magnetism on the quantum phase in superconductors, particularly in the context of quantization of flux in a superconducting ring. Participants explore theoretical aspects, experimental methods, and the implications of phase changes in superconducting states.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant derives the quantization of flux in a superconducting ring and questions why the integral of the phase gradient leads to an integer multiple of Planck's constant.
  • Another participant explains that the phase of the order parameter must be single-valued, leading to the conclusion that the phase must change by an integer multiple of \(2\pi\) during a complete traversal of the ring.
  • Several participants discuss potential experimental methods to alter the quantum phase of the supercurrent while remaining below the critical temperature, suggesting methods such as changing the radius of the ring or introducing magnetic flux through the loop.
  • One participant challenges the practicality of changing the radius of a brittle superconducting wire while it is in the superconducting state.
  • Another participant emphasizes the use of magnetic flux as a method to affect the phase, referencing the operation of a SQUID.
  • A later reply seeks clarification on non-electromagnetic methods for altering the quantum phase.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of various methods to change the quantum phase, with some agreeing on the use of magnetic flux while others question the practicality of changing the ring's radius. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to achieve the desired phase alteration.

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Participants reference specific theoretical frameworks and experimental setups, but the discussion does not resolve the practical limitations or assumptions underlying the proposed methods.

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in deriving quantization of flux in superconductor ring, the momentum of cooper pair p:
[tex]p=\hbar\nabla\theta=e^*(\Lambda J_s + A)[/tex]
then integrate around the ring,
[tex]\hbar\oint\nabla\theta dl=e^*\oint(\Lambda J_s + A)dl[/tex]
using stoke's theorem and integrate sufficiently deep in the ring where current density is very small, the RHS becomes
[tex]RHS=e^*\Phi_s[/tex]
and the left hand side,becomes hn where n is integer.
So the quantized flux is
[tex]\Phi_s=nh/e^*[/tex]
e star is the effective cooper pair charge which is -2e.

i got confused here,why the left hand side integral becomes hn?

The argument used by the book (Van Duzer, superconductivity page 116) is that because theta is unique or differ by a multiple of 2 Pi at each point, so the integral
[tex]\oint\nabla\theta dl=2\pi n[/tex]
why?? where does n come from? theta is a scalar function of r.
please help.

thanks.
 
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[itex]\theta[/itex] is the phase of the order parameter [itex]\psi = |\psi|e^{i \theta}[/itex]. Since [itex]\psi[/itex] must be single valued at some specific angular position [itex]\phi + 2k \pi[/itex] on the ring, we need, [itex]\psi(\phi ) = \psi(\phi + 2m \pi )[/itex], or we need [itex]e^{i \theta ( \phi )} = e^{i \theta ( \phi + 2m \pi)}[/itex], for all m. For the phase factor to remain unchanged over integral number of traversals of the loop, the phase [itex]\theta[/itex] must itself change by only an integer multiple of [itex]2 \pi[/itex] (since [itex]e^{2in \pi} = 1[/itex]).

So
[tex]\theta ( \phi + 2m \pi ) = \theta ( \phi) + 2n \pi[/tex].

In other words
[tex]\hbar\oint\nabla\theta dl = \hbar \Delta\theta = \hbar (\theta ( \phi + 2 \pi ) - \theta ( \phi)) = 2 \pi n \hbar = nh[/tex]
 
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Good answer, Gokul.

In your opinion, from an experimental point of view, what would be a simple method to effect a change in the phase of the wavefunction of the supercurrent while remaining below T(c)?

Creator :biggrin:
 
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change the radius of the ring.
 
Creator said:
Good answer, Gokul.

In your opinion, from an experimental point of view, what would be a simple method to effect a change in the phase of the wavefunction of the supercurrent while remaining below T(c)?

Creator :biggrin:

Have a magnetic flux through the loop. That, after all, is how a SQUID works.

Zz.
 
sniffer said:
change the radius of the ring.

True, in theory; but by what method are you going to change the length of a brittle superconducting wire while it is in the superconducting state?
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ZapperZ said:
Have a magnetic flux through the loop. That, after all, is how a SQUID works.

Zz.

Of course; externally applying B thru the loop. I should be more specific. I guess I am referring to a non-electromagnetic method of altering the quantum phase.

Creator
 
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