Suitable experiment for 16-year-olds? Topic: Light

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The discussion revolves around finding suitable physics experiments related to light for first-year high school students in Denmark. The experiments must be engaging enough to support a three-page report and should not involve trigonometry, which limits the types of experiments that can be considered.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants suggest various experiments involving lenses, fiber optics, and the behavior of light, while also expressing concerns about the trigonometry requirement. Some propose measuring focal lengths and observing image formation with convex lenses, while others question the feasibility of certain ideas without trigonometric calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing ideas and questioning the constraints of the problem. Some suggestions have been made regarding potential experiments, but there is no clear consensus on a specific approach that meets all the requirements.

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Participants are working under the constraint that the experiments must not involve trigonometry, which has led to a focus on simpler observational experiments and measurements related to light.

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Suitable experiment for 16-year-olds? Topic: "Light"

Does anyone have a suggestion for a good physics experiment for first-year high school students (in Denmark), which has to do with light? It doesn't matter what, it only needs to be "fleshy" enough to write a three-page report about, include a series of concrete measurements which can be used in calculations, and NOT include any trigonometry (since they haven't learned to use that yet).

This last requirement sadly throws any spectral measurements and other grating/interference experiments.

I would be very appreciative of any ideas you may have.
 
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ooo... things were looking great until you said "Not include any trigonometry".
 
Maybe report on the effects (observed) of various shapes of lenses? Make a telescope or microscope? Burn down the school with a magnifying glass?
 
yea i just satrted typing a huge lsit out for you then i reread and saw the no trig part
 
Perhaps you could just use fibre optic cables there always neat. Or the old shine the laser through water vapor or smoke chalk dust etc. I have no idea about experiemnts that don't invlove trig tho. Just tell them how fast light travels and put them to work fidning the time it takes for light to travel various distances! that ell keep em busy
 
blimkie said:
Just tell them how fast light travels and put them to work fidning the time it takes for light to travel various distances! that ell keep em busy

That's not an experiment, that's just solving problems.
 
Danger said:
Maybe report on the effects (observed) of various shapes of lenses?

Not bad. They could measure focal lengths and show the rule that you just add the dioptries of different lenses to find the cumulative effect...
 
Pengwuino said:
ooo... things were looking great until you said "Not include any trigonometry".

Exactly :) That's the challenge...
 
quaanaa,
you could investigate how a convex lens forms images with light. Learn how it magnifies images and determine the focal length of a convex lens. You need a convex lens, a metre ruler, 2 corks (large diameters) and four pins.

Stick two of the pins in one of the corks. Position them 2 centimeters apart on top of the cork. The pins should be positioned in front of the lens with the connecting line perpendicular to the axis of the lens. Cut the other cork in half lengthwise. Stick the other two pins into the tops of the two halves. Align these two pins with the images on the other side of the lens. You need to look through the lens on the other side while moving your head closer and further away from the lens. The idea is to look in the air for the images.Once you have located them and positioned the two pins (on the cork halves) to coincide with these you need to measure the object (u), image (v) and separation (d) distances. Tabulate these. Move the object (the cork with the two pins in it) by a few centimeters closer (or further) to the lens and repeat the process. Do this another three times. The magnification of the image is given by:
[tex]m=\frac{v}{u}[/tex]
which you calculate from half of the separation between the 2 pins behind the lens. Plot a graph of the magnification against the image distance. From the lens formula it can be shown that:
[tex]m=\frac{v}{f}-1[/tex]
The slope of your graph will therefore be:
[tex]slope=\frac{1}{f}[/tex]
and the intercept on the v axis will be f also. At unit magnification (v = u) we can show by using the lens formula that:
[tex]v=u=2f[/tex]
another value for f can thus be obtained from the graph:
[tex]f=\frac{OB}{2}[/tex]
Calculate the average of the focal lenghts obtained in these ways.
 

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