Are There Infinite Plane Formulas for a Given Vector?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of planes in relation to a given vector, specifically examining the conditions under which a plane can be defined and the implications of having infinite equations for a plane parallel to a vector.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between a vector and the normal vector of a plane, questioning the conditions necessary to define a plane. There are discussions about the need for additional points or vectors to establish a plane and the implications of having infinite solutions to the equation derived from the dot product.

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Participants are actively questioning the assumptions made about the relationship between the vector and the plane. Some have provided guidance on the necessity of additional vectors or points to properly define the plane, while others express confusion about the concept of parallel vectors and planes.

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There is mention of specific points on the plane and the need for non-collinear vectors, indicating constraints in the problem setup. The original poster acknowledges having two points on the plane, which adds complexity to the discussion.

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While working through a problem I arrived at a stage where a vector, say V being parallel to the plane I'm trying to find the formula for. Taking the normal vector of the plane to be n I used the dot product:

n*V=0

in this case I knew V to be <-2, -2, -1> and n I set to <a,b,c>. This leads to the equation -2a - 2b - c = 0 for which there are infinite solutions. Does this mean that a plane has an infinite number of equations of have I done somethign wrong?
 
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(a,b,c) are the components of a vector normal to V. Thus you have found the equation whose points are endpoints of vectors normal to V. If you are looking for the plane that contains V, this isn't it.
Given a vector in a plane, you need at least one other non-collinear vector in the plane to find the equation of the plane.
 
I'm looking for the place parallel to V and I have one point on the plane.
 
Your plane as an infinite number of points in it (vectors which are solutions to your equation). The are all solutions of one equation:

-2a - 2b - c = 0
 
skiboka33 said:
I'm looking for the place parallel to V and I have one point on the plane.
You will need at least one more point on the plane, so that you can have two noncollinear vectors that lie in the plane. A space parallel with one vector only describes a line.
 
hypermorphism said:
You will need at least one more point on the plane, so that you can have two noncollinear vectors that lie in the plane. A space parallel with one vector only describes a line.

True enough. I am actually given 2 points on the plane, sorry.

So i found a vector PQ on the plane (where P and Q are points on the plane). and a Vector V which is parallel to that. Now I'm stuck again
 
Is the vector V collinear with PQ ? Is the plane supposed to pass through the origin ?
If all you want is a plane that contains lines parallel to the vector V, you have an infinitude of planes to choose from.
 
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That was my first guess too, but since this is an assignment question I'm assuming that's not the case, so I must be missing something... As far as I can see, for a given vector there are an infinite number of planes that could be parallel to it. Even the concept of vectors being parallel to planes doesn't seem to make sense to me.
 

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