Calculating Percent Change in Kinetic Energy with Varying Force Angles

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The discussion revolves around calculating the percentage change in kinetic energy of a sled being pulled across a horizontal surface, with a focus on how the angle of the pulling force affects this change. The original scenario involves a force applied directly in the direction of motion, resulting in a known increase in kinetic energy, while the modified scenario involves the force applied at an angle of 62.2° above the horizontal.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between work and kinetic energy, questioning how to account for the horizontal component of the force in both scenarios. They discuss the need to derive equations that represent the increase in kinetic energy based on the applied force and its angle.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to formulate equations based on their understanding of work and energy. Some have suggested methods to relate the two scenarios, while others are clarifying the implications of their assumptions and the variables involved. There is a mix of approaches being discussed, but no consensus has been reached on the final answer.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of the problem, including the need to consider the horizontal component of the force and the implications of the angle on the work done. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the equations reflect the correct relationships between kinetic energy and work, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the variables involved.

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A sled is being pulled across a horizontal patch of snow. Friction is negligible. The pulling force points in the same direction as the sled's displacement, which is along the +x axis. As a result, the kinetic energy of the sled increases by 36.7%. By what percentage would the sled's kinetic energy have increased if this force had pointed 62.2° above the +x axis?

i'm not sure how to even begin this problem... I'm guessing i should use the change in KE = Work but I'm not sure how to go about it. help? thanks!
 
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You are correct: W = Fx.
We can assume that only the horizontal component of force increases the kinetic energy.

What is the horizontal component of F in case one (where F is horizontal)? How about in case two (where F is tilted)?

Can you figure out how to get an equation describing the situation (increase in kinetic energy) in case one? How about in case two?
 
if X is the horizontal component then x*cos(62.2) is the hypotenuse for the second case, right? I'm not sure how to make an equation for that. i know that PE at the bottom of the hill is 0 and therefore it must have a higher KE at the bottom and has a higher PE at the top. I'm really not sure how to make an equation out of that though
 
Hill? What hill? The hypotenuse is F. What is F's horizontal component?
 
F*cos(62.2) is F's horizontal component... how can i use that in an equation?
 
Only the horizontal F increases kinetic energy, unless the sled takes off (as in: airplanes do), but we assumed it doesn't.

Anyways, this is the situation:
K1 + W = K2
In the beginning, the sled has some kinetic energy (K1). Some (positive) work is done to the sled (W) and its kinetic energy increases (K2).

Can you use the information given in the problem to get two equations (case one and case two)?
 
does this make sense... for situation one --> (1/2)*m*(v^2) + (f*d) = .367 * (1/2)*m*(v^2) and for situation two --> (1/2)*m*(v^2) + (f*d*cos(62.2)) = (1/2)*m*(v^2) ? how can i use those
 
Close, but needs some adjusting:
(1/2)*m*(v^2) + (f*d) = .367 * (1/2)*m*(v^2)
Multiplying by 0,367 would mean the work was negative (as the kinetic energy decreases). What should you multiply the final kinetic energy with?

(1/2)*m*(v^2) + (f*d*cos(62.2)) = (1/2)*m*(v^2)
You must distinguish the energy in the beginning and in the end. Your equation gives fdcos(62,2) = 0, which is not the case. As you will be wanting the ratio between energy in the beginning and the end, I suggest multiplying the final energy by some A (which would be related to the asked percentage).

As you are not asked for velocity, using (1/2)mv^2 is unnecessary. Use K.
 
instead of multplying by .367 should i divide by .367?
 
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As there's an 36,7 % increase: Einitial + 0,367Einitial = Efinal

So, you should multiply it by 1,367.
 
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so now i have the two equations...
K1 + f*d = 1.367*K2 and
K1 + f*d*(cos(62.2)) = A*K2
but i have a lot of variables so what do i solve for?
 
  • #12
K2 is actually K1.
A is the asked quantity. Solve for it.

Well, now it's just mathematics. Give it a shot, ask for more help if you can't get it solved :smile:.
 
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what about fd though

aren't there still 3 variables... fd, A, and K1
 
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fd will cancel out.
 
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from equation one i got K1 = fd/.367 and i plugged that into equation two and eventually got A=1.46... I then multiplied that by 100 to get 146%, but that's wrong... I'm not sure what i did wrong
 
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Ok, K = fd / .367.
K + fdcos(62.2) = AK
fd / .367 + fdcos(62.2) = A(fd / .367)
fd(1/.367 + cos(62.2)) = fdA / .367 _____[/color] | fd cancels out
A = 1 + .367cos(62.2) = 1.1712

=> 17.1 %
I hope that's correct :smile:.
 
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oh so you have to take out that one before putting into a percentage... thanks!
 

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