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discombobulated
Oct17-05, 03:00 PM
I'm a bit stuck on this question:
the curve C has the equation y=x2 + 2x + 4
a) Express x2 +2x + 4 in the form a(x+b)2 + c and hence the coordinates of the minimum point C.
This is what i've done:
x2 +2x +4 = a(x+b)2+c
a(x+b)(x-b) + c = x2+2x+4
a(x2 + xb+ xb +b2) + c = x2+2x+4
ax2 + 2abx + ab2 + c = x2 +2x+4
Therefore: a= 1, 2ab= 2, ab= 1, b= 1, ab2 + c= 4
1+c = 4
c= 3
(x=0) y= 4
y= 1(x+1)2+ 2
..and that's all i've got so far. Please let me know if it's all wrong and how do i go about getting the minimum point from here.
Thanks!

hotvette
Oct17-05, 03:29 PM
You are almost there. Take a look at your final equation (y= 1(x+1)^2+ 2). What value of x will make y the smallest it can possibly be?

HallsofIvy
Oct17-05, 05:11 PM
I have a small problem with that. If y= (x+1)2+ 2 then
y= x2+ 2x+ 1+ 2= x2+ 2x+ 3 which doesn't appear to be what you started with!

discombobulated
Oct17-05, 05:24 PM
sorry, that would be me unable to read my own scribbled notes! it's meant to be a 3.

ivybond
Oct17-05, 11:37 PM
Standard (and easier way) of completing the square toget a(x+b)2 + c is

1x2 +2x +4 = 1 (x2 +2 x + 1) + 3 =
(x + 1)2 + 3.

Graphing (especially by hand) would also give a good idea of the minimum.

Looking into an algebra or precalculus textbook would work too.

VietDao29
Oct18-05, 08:43 AM
Since you have:
A2 ≥ 0.
So (x + 1)2 ≥ 0.
Adding 3 to both sides gives:
(x + 1)2 + 3 ≥ 3.
So what's the smallest value y can have, what x makes y smallest?
Viet Dao,

discombobulated
Oct18-05, 04:51 PM
right, so..the minimum point is (-1,3)?

HallsofIvy
Oct18-05, 04:54 PM
Yes, that's correct. If x=-1, y= 02+ 3= 3. If x is any number other than -1, x+ 1 is not 0 so (x+1)2 is positive and (x+1)2+ 3 is greater than 3.