Calculating Forces in Car Accidents

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The discussion revolves around calculating forces involved in car accidents, specifically focusing on the physics of motion and forces acting on vehicles and passengers during collisions. The subject area includes kinematics and dynamics.

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  • Participants explore the calculations related to the forces acting on a car and a person during accidents, questioning the validity of using certain equations under non-constant speed conditions. There is a focus on the application of kinematic equations and the assumptions made in the original poster's calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the assumptions behind the calculations. Some suggest that the original poster's approach may not be valid due to the nature of acceleration involved in the scenarios. Guidance has been offered regarding the appropriate kinematic formulas to use.

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There is uncertainty regarding the application of constant speed assumptions in the calculations, and participants are discussing the implications of these assumptions on the results. The original poster expresses doubt about the reasonableness of one of the calculated forces.

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Hi everyone. I just finished 2 questions but I'm not sure if the answer is right. So can anyone help me check it?

The first question is:
"Police find the tire tracks of a car that lost control and caused an accident. They want to know if the car was speeding. They determine that μs=0.65 for it's tire on this road. The tire marks are 126m long. How fast was the car traveling?"

Answer:
Fcar(the force of the car)
Fcar= μsFn Fn=mg
Fcar= μsmg
Fcar=ma
ma=μsmg
cross out the m
a=μsg
a=0.65*9.8
=6.37m/s^2
d=vt
t=v/a
d=v*(v/a)
126=v^2/6.37
v=28m/s
The velocity of the car was 28m/s

The second question is "Calculate the force acting on the body of a 60kg person who is involved in an accident. His car hits a tree while going 15m/s. The car comes to a stop with the tree embedded 1.1m into it."

Answer:
t=d/v
=1.1m / 15m/s
=0.07s
a=v/t
a=15m/s / 0.07s
=214m/s^2
Fbrake(The force of the break)
Fbrake=ma
=60*214
=12840N
So the force acted upon the person is 12840N
I'm not really sure of question 2's answer cause it seems a bit too big.
 
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One thing you're doing wrong is assuming that [itex]d = v t[/itex] applies here. But that only applies when the speed is constant, which is not true here. You can use it, but you only if v is the average speed.
 
So are the answers and calculations correct if V really is constant?
 
If V really is constant, then the questions make no sense. :smile:

I recommend that you look up (or derive) the various kinematic formulas for uniformly accelerated motion. The formula that you need connects v, a, and d.
 
So does what you're saying apply to both question or only one of them?
Also is the formula i need v2^2=V1^2+2ad?
 
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Both problems involve accelerated motion, not constant speed. And, yes, that's the formula you need.
 
Hey, PhysicsBeginner, by any chance do you go to school in Scarborough, Canada? I came here to ask about this same exact question that's in the booklet our teacher gave.

edit: After reading your other posts, I think you go to the same school as I do! Haha, how cheap.

edit2: Also, are his/her answers correct? Thank you!
 
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