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gdumont
Oct18-05, 10:27 AM
Hi,
I'm trying to do problem 3.5 of Peskin & Schroeder and I don't know where to start.
First of all,
I need to get the hermitian conjugate of the following expression
\delta \chi = \epsilon F + \sigma^\mu \partial_\mu \phi \sigma^2 \epsilon^\ast
where \epsilon is a 2 component-spinor of grassmann numbers, F a complex scalar field \sigma^\mu = (I,\sigma^i) for i=1,...,3 and the \sigma^i are the Pauli matrices, \phi is a complex scalar field.
I think the hermitian conjugate would be something like
\delta \chi^\dagger = \epsilon^\dagger F^\ast + \epsilon^T \sigma^2 \sigma^\mu \partial_\mu \phi^\ast
Am I right?
Thanks
Guillaume
Moderator note: I took the liberty of editing in your LaTeX tags.
-TM
vanesch
Oct18-05, 02:05 PM
If you want to, I did this problem and you can find it on my homepage (but that's a spoiler of course).
Also, you can use LaTeX here, you just need to surround your LateX with the instuctions tex (between square brackets) and /tex (also between square brackets). It will be much more readable that way!
gdumont
Oct18-05, 11:10 PM
I had a look at your solution and there is something I don't understand. At the end of the first page you wrote
$ i \chi^\dagger \bar{\sigma}^\mu \sigma^\nu (\partial_\nu \partial_\mu \phi ) \sigma^2 \epsilon^\ast = i\epsilon^\dagger \sigma^2 \chi^\ast (\partial^\mu \partial_\mu \phi)$
This seems to imply that $ \bar{\sigma}^\mu \sigma^\nu = g^{\mu \nu}$
!?
I tought that
$\{ \bar{\sigma}^\mu, \sigma^\nu \} = g^{\mu \nu}$
where the brackets denote the anticommutator. Am I wrong?
P.S. The command \bar{\sigma} doesn't seem to work in the brackets.... sorry about that.
vanesch
Oct19-05, 12:33 AM
I had a look at your solution and there is something I don't understand. At the end of the first page you wrote
$i\chi^\dagger \bar{\sigma}^\mu \sigma^\nu (\partial_\nu \partial_\mu \phi ) \sigma^2 \epsilon^\ast = i\epsilon^\dagger \sigma^2 \chi^\ast (\partial^\mu \partial_\mu \phi)$
This seems to imply that $ \bar{\sigma}^\mu \sigma^\nu = g^{\mu \nu}$
!?
I tought that
$\{ \bar{\sigma}^\mu, \sigma^\nu \} = g^{\mu \nu}$
where the brackets denote the anticommutator. Am I wrong?
A quick reply:
I didn't check (did this long ago !) it completely, but as \mu,\nu are summed with the partial derivatives, that symmetrises the expression, no ?
dextercioby
Oct19-05, 04:40 AM
Hi,
I'm trying to do problem 3.5 of Peskin & Schroeder and I don't know where to start.
First of all,
I need to get the hermitian conjugate of the following expression
\delta \chi = \epsilon F + \sigma^\mu \partial_\mu \phi \sigma^2 \epsilon^\ast
where \epsilon is a 2 component-spinor of grassmann numbers, F a complex scalar field \sigma^\mu = (I,\sigma^i) for i=1,...,3 and the \sigma^i are the Pauli matrices, \phi is a complex scalar field.
I think the hermitian conjugate would be something like
\delta \chi^\dagger = \epsilon^\dagger F^\ast + \epsilon^T \sigma^2 \sigma^\mu \partial_\mu \phi^\ast
Am I right?
Thanks
Guillaume
Moderator note: I took the liberty of editing in your LaTeX tags.
-TM
It looks okay. The Pauli matrices are hermitean (they form a basis in \mbox{su(2)} , up to a 1/2 ) and involution on the Grassmann algebra goes, under hermitean conjugation (seen as simultaneous involution and transposing), into transposing.
I dunno how Vanesch came up with a second space-time derivative...
Daniel.
alphaone
Feb20-07, 11:56 AM
I have a very similar question:
I want to find the hermitian conjugate of
\epsilon \sigma^\mu \partial_\mu \psi
where psi and epsilon are 2 component spinors of grassmann variables.
In that case I think the hermitian conjugate should be:
-\partial_\mu \psi^\dagger \sigma^\mu \epsilon^\dagger
My main concern is whether a minus sign arises in a hermitian conjugate when commuting the epsilon past the psi.
alphaone
Feb20-07, 11:59 AM
I realized that there is a mistake in the last post as the psi inthe first expression should be a (psi)^dagger and a psi in the second however my question remains.
dextercioby
Feb21-07, 02:02 AM
If the Grassmann parity of the the spinors is 1, then they anticommute, so the "-" sign occurs.
alphaone
Feb21-07, 05:11 PM
Actually I think that even when they anticommute there should not be a - sign, as when taking the hermitian conjugate we are not commuting them but using the definition of the hermitian conjugate so I would say
(\epsilon \psi)^\dagger = \psi^\dagger \epsilon^\dagger
but please correct me if I am wrong
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